annsheila79
04-20 04:47 PM
No cursing, name calling please.. You could have just ignored. You have done no favour to yourself by replying.
I fully agree with FraudGultee I shouldnt have called snathan a moron, i am sorry about that. but on the hindsight his reply sort of proves it... :D
I fully agree with FraudGultee I shouldnt have called snathan a moron, i am sorry about that. but on the hindsight his reply sort of proves it... :D
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shortduck
09-11 11:15 AM
Hi letstalklc
Thanks for your reply.
"SBI will update only once in the morning" Just wanted know the morning of India or USA ?
Ok, I just did myself and man you are RIGHT.
Today's exchange rate is [USD 4001 10000 48.07]
and I got ($$$ X 48.07) - 25.
Many thanks for the knowledge.
I am not sure if ICICI also does the same, because I too have stooped using their service. And you know what, I called when once when I had a very bad exchange rate given. I said that I will quit using your service and surprise surprise they didn't care. And ,now, So Do I.
Thanks for your reply.
"SBI will update only once in the morning" Just wanted know the morning of India or USA ?
Ok, I just did myself and man you are RIGHT.
Today's exchange rate is [USD 4001 10000 48.07]
and I got ($$$ X 48.07) - 25.
Many thanks for the knowledge.
I am not sure if ICICI also does the same, because I too have stooped using their service. And you know what, I called when once when I had a very bad exchange rate given. I said that I will quit using your service and surprise surprise they didn't care. And ,now, So Do I.
Struggle
07-14 12:48 AM
http://digg.com/politics/The_Gandhi_Protests
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arunkotte
07-27 05:40 PM
I hope any of the accounting Guru's here help me answer this.
I got an RFE for ability to pay. My current wage is 4000$ less than the prooffered wage. My company filed 1120S and there is no net income line on it, there is only a Ordinary Business Income (total income- Total deductions) line which has 6503$. Is Ordinary business income considered same as Net Income?
My Lawyer is trying to include a cover letter arguing that Current wage + Net Income > Prooffered wage. Do you think "Ordinary Business Income" can be considered as "Net Income".
THanks
I got an RFE for ability to pay. My current wage is 4000$ less than the prooffered wage. My company filed 1120S and there is no net income line on it, there is only a Ordinary Business Income (total income- Total deductions) line which has 6503$. Is Ordinary business income considered same as Net Income?
My Lawyer is trying to include a cover letter arguing that Current wage + Net Income > Prooffered wage. Do you think "Ordinary Business Income" can be considered as "Net Income".
THanks
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malaGCPahije
08-12 02:18 PM
How will it march steadily when we have less than 3000 numbers for the year?
I am sure we have many pplicants with PD in 2002 and 2003. I would be surprised if PD moves beyond April 2002 in FY 2009.
Assuming no other miracle happens!
is our only huge hope. Else I think EB3-I has a long way to go to even reach 2004. Let's see.
I am sure we have many pplicants with PD in 2002 and 2003. I would be surprised if PD moves beyond April 2002 in FY 2009.
Assuming no other miracle happens!
is our only huge hope. Else I think EB3-I has a long way to go to even reach 2004. Let's see.
IamWithImmiVoice
01-10 03:18 PM
Reading the thread it seems like there are a few steps being dicussed here:
1. Hunger Strike
2. Go the court way for failure of visa spillovers
3. Letters, Faxes etc etc.
4.. I am missing something that someone can add.
I am wondering if hunger strike will work. First of all hunger strike is useless unless its heavily publicized. For publicity we will need to be at Washington (maybe not )and strike for atleast a week before we get any publicity. That means risking physical health as well as professional life. Moreover we will need a large number of people to make news. It has to be a well publicized and a successful strike. It will surely have more impact than the rally.
I suggest writing one letter everyday to white house and to USCIS. If thousands of us write two letters a day everyday to President and USCIS it wont cost us much and it will be a continuous effort till we come out with a more substantial effort like a rally or hunger strike.
Feel free to blast my ideas and suggest others.
Lets be all a part of the core team and not get an opportunity to say that the core team is not doing enough
1. Hunger Strike
2. Go the court way for failure of visa spillovers
3. Letters, Faxes etc etc.
4.. I am missing something that someone can add.
I am wondering if hunger strike will work. First of all hunger strike is useless unless its heavily publicized. For publicity we will need to be at Washington (maybe not )and strike for atleast a week before we get any publicity. That means risking physical health as well as professional life. Moreover we will need a large number of people to make news. It has to be a well publicized and a successful strike. It will surely have more impact than the rally.
I suggest writing one letter everyday to white house and to USCIS. If thousands of us write two letters a day everyday to President and USCIS it wont cost us much and it will be a continuous effort till we come out with a more substantial effort like a rally or hunger strike.
Feel free to blast my ideas and suggest others.
Lets be all a part of the core team and not get an opportunity to say that the core team is not doing enough
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learning01
02-01 12:43 PM
Look. There are 2 sides to a coin. I was a victim by my previous employer, who is a global corporation (120 k emp), who couldn't succeed in US market.
I know many small and medium companies ( and I refuse lable them in any other way) who are good employers and who truely furthered and moved the GC applications.
This talk is not correct. The situation is due to a visa regime (regime=tight control on every aspect), neo-conservatives dictating and bulldozing policies, bums and incompetent lawmakers (some of whom get thrown out each 2 years), lack of budget and personnel (and yes, Iraq is sucking everything out) and importantly lack of organization or godfather to look after our genuine needs.
IV stepped in and is doing a yeomen service and we should be proud of it. Results will come.
All Indian owned desi companies are cheaters.
I know many small and medium companies ( and I refuse lable them in any other way) who are good employers and who truely furthered and moved the GC applications.
This talk is not correct. The situation is due to a visa regime (regime=tight control on every aspect), neo-conservatives dictating and bulldozing policies, bums and incompetent lawmakers (some of whom get thrown out each 2 years), lack of budget and personnel (and yes, Iraq is sucking everything out) and importantly lack of organization or godfather to look after our genuine needs.
IV stepped in and is doing a yeomen service and we should be proud of it. Results will come.
All Indian owned desi companies are cheaters.
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mrajatish
10-03 10:15 AM
My post is going to make few MS/Phd people angry over here. Correct me if I am wrong, but when you came here to do MS/Phd, you came on a student visa...Right? Student visa comes under Non Permanent Non Resident alien category. All of you had a burden to prove to the US consulate that after you complete your degree, you would go back to your home country. All of you prepared for that and you knew the moment you said, I might not come back, F1 would be gone! You said this...every time you went back for F1 visa revalidation. Mind you..that H1/H4 never had that burden. They could have easily said that yes, if I like USA, I might not come back.
Now fast forward....MS/Phd is done. Suddenly...."I will go home after MS/Phd" statement is gone..and hunt for H1-B is on! Once they get H1-B, hunt for Green Card starts. Once this heavy head Phd guy, who spent last 5 years on 1500 bucks a month is in GC line....he also realizes that hey, H1-Bs should not be allowed to interfile. After all, they all work for desi consulting companies. Yeah..right! Look who is talking! All H1s should come in EB-3, after all they did not go through 1500 bucks a month for 5 years.
Here comes a Phd guy who always lied to the system saying "I love my home country, my research would do wonders to the society at home" is not leaving any stone unturned to get his GC (faster than anyone else).....tell me, who is inferior? A Phd student who lied to the system for 4/5 years and suddenly changed his intent or an H1-B candidate who never had the burden to prove that he would go back.
All of us are part of this very painful journey! I have spent 8 years on H1-B and I am still waiting for my GC. I work for a desi consulting company, my GC is in EB-3, I have a B.Tech. degree from IIT and I am sick and tired of this GC mess.
Second this post - point is, there is no easy solution to this mess until we work together to achieve the common goal of increasing # of visas available for Green card.
Now fast forward....MS/Phd is done. Suddenly...."I will go home after MS/Phd" statement is gone..and hunt for H1-B is on! Once they get H1-B, hunt for Green Card starts. Once this heavy head Phd guy, who spent last 5 years on 1500 bucks a month is in GC line....he also realizes that hey, H1-Bs should not be allowed to interfile. After all, they all work for desi consulting companies. Yeah..right! Look who is talking! All H1s should come in EB-3, after all they did not go through 1500 bucks a month for 5 years.
Here comes a Phd guy who always lied to the system saying "I love my home country, my research would do wonders to the society at home" is not leaving any stone unturned to get his GC (faster than anyone else).....tell me, who is inferior? A Phd student who lied to the system for 4/5 years and suddenly changed his intent or an H1-B candidate who never had the burden to prove that he would go back.
All of us are part of this very painful journey! I have spent 8 years on H1-B and I am still waiting for my GC. I work for a desi consulting company, my GC is in EB-3, I have a B.Tech. degree from IIT and I am sick and tired of this GC mess.
Second this post - point is, there is no easy solution to this mess until we work together to achieve the common goal of increasing # of visas available for Green card.
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greenmonster
08-04 09:58 PM
I am a July 2007 filer, so far i have never got finger prints on my EAD. First time i did not get a FP notice. I scheduled an info pass appointment and got my FP notice.. gave FP in Feb 2008. I got my first EAD in Oct 2007.
My latest EAD ( approved Jul 2010) does not have the finger prints on it. Last time I gave my FP was in June 2009 ( Notice sent by USICS ). Is that something to worry? Is it related to NC ?
My latest EAD ( approved Jul 2010) does not have the finger prints on it. Last time I gave my FP was in June 2009 ( Notice sent by USICS ). Is that something to worry? Is it related to NC ?
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hpandey
08-12 12:29 PM
Looking at the poll it seems that most of the EB-3 pending are from before Jan1 - 2005 . Seems like anyone who filed in PERM from 2005 onwards was wise enough to file in EB-2 or converted to EB-2 . We are in for a long wait .
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snathan
01-17 04:59 PM
Hi Guys,
Please join the donor forum. We got some direction and plan how to go about this. We can not post the message in the open forum. We need trusted volunteer to work on this. Please send me your phone number and contact details in pvt message. pls check the donor forum for updates.
Please join the donor forum. We got some direction and plan how to go about this. We can not post the message in the open forum. We need trusted volunteer to work on this. Please send me your phone number and contact details in pvt message. pls check the donor forum for updates.
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felix31
02-05 10:15 PM
Not all professions can apply for H1Bs. You need to have specific skills that the US does NOT have. Someone on here had once posted that his wife could not work as a teacher although the school was ready to offer her a job, coz there is no H1B category for teachers. The H1B visa cannot help spouses in all professions. Hence my suggestion.
About how this will solve retrogression, IT WONT. My point is instead of trying to bring this retrogression beast down, maybe we should look at alternatives to work around it.
H1B visa CAN BE and IS given to teachers. That poster may have had the problem similar to mine and that is having spent 6 yrs in H4, she was ineligible for H1. Let me remind everyone that decoupling of H1/H4 time happened only 2 months ago. Therefore, if the lady in question already possess Bachelor degree (as min requirement for H1) and is otherwise certifiable I dont see a problem for transfer to H1 .
the only problem may be in finding a school district willing to file H1 WELL in advance and accepting the fact that she cannot start working on SEP 1st (when the new school year starts) but OCT 1st.
About how this will solve retrogression, IT WONT. My point is instead of trying to bring this retrogression beast down, maybe we should look at alternatives to work around it.
H1B visa CAN BE and IS given to teachers. That poster may have had the problem similar to mine and that is having spent 6 yrs in H4, she was ineligible for H1. Let me remind everyone that decoupling of H1/H4 time happened only 2 months ago. Therefore, if the lady in question already possess Bachelor degree (as min requirement for H1) and is otherwise certifiable I dont see a problem for transfer to H1 .
the only problem may be in finding a school district willing to file H1 WELL in advance and accepting the fact that she cannot start working on SEP 1st (when the new school year starts) but OCT 1st.
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abhijitp
06-06 04:38 AM
I am sorry I haven't done it either. I am gonna get this done tomorrow. I am deeply buried in work right now (hope you will trust me on this given the time of the day now;-) but this action item is way too important to miss out on!!!
Thanks Santb1975 and everybody else who is making this happen!
Thanks Santb1975 and everybody else who is making this happen!
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ashishgour
09-17 11:28 AM
I can hear audio clearly
They are accusing someone of wrong doings - like taking money etc..
They are accusing someone of wrong doings - like taking money etc..
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chanduv23
03-13 11:48 AM
I completely disagree with your message here. You dont even know what the personal reason for not participating in a state chapter is. I, for one, am unable to join a state chapter, because , the nearest chapter is 400 miles and 2 states away. What good would it do to me to join something that I can never be part of. I wanted to start a state chapter here in my place, but I couldnt find any useful resources on how to do it. May be eb3_nepa has some reasons like it.
Like you said, IV is not a top-down organization, which means everyone is responsible for everyone. I dont see anything wrong with eb3_nepa's questions. He wanted to know what is going on. I am sure there are lots of people around here who has the same questions.
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Thank you
The primary reason for disconnects and inability towards working in structure is because IV is primarily a volunteer organization and everyone are unpaid volunteers.
I agree that a lot of State chapters are not functional. some of them were reborn after death, some are very active some are not - as a matter of fact I lead the Tri State chapter and this had to be reborn as it was lead by someone else before and they did what they could and gave up. Now we have some wonderful chapter members who are really helping out and doing a great job. we combined the 3 states for better numbers and better coordination. the leads have strived very hard and continue to strive hard.
There are times when other things take up priority and the leadership may not be in a position to be active.
I think part of the frustration is because there do not seem to be frequest updates these days.
This is what I recommend. Contact the state chapter leader who is nearest to your state. You can join the state chapter.
For some very important reasons, updates canot be posted on the website.
With regard to eb3_nepa's case - I think he is from Tri State area doors are always open for him to join the state chapter
Like you said, IV is not a top-down organization, which means everyone is responsible for everyone. I dont see anything wrong with eb3_nepa's questions. He wanted to know what is going on. I am sure there are lots of people around here who has the same questions.
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Thank you
The primary reason for disconnects and inability towards working in structure is because IV is primarily a volunteer organization and everyone are unpaid volunteers.
I agree that a lot of State chapters are not functional. some of them were reborn after death, some are very active some are not - as a matter of fact I lead the Tri State chapter and this had to be reborn as it was lead by someone else before and they did what they could and gave up. Now we have some wonderful chapter members who are really helping out and doing a great job. we combined the 3 states for better numbers and better coordination. the leads have strived very hard and continue to strive hard.
There are times when other things take up priority and the leadership may not be in a position to be active.
I think part of the frustration is because there do not seem to be frequest updates these days.
This is what I recommend. Contact the state chapter leader who is nearest to your state. You can join the state chapter.
For some very important reasons, updates canot be posted on the website.
With regard to eb3_nepa's case - I think he is from Tri State area doors are always open for him to join the state chapter
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Macaca
11-07 01:17 PM
There are companies with H-1B workers who are so-called ``on the bench,'' meaning they are ready to be deployed to a project. Hundreds of foreign workers are standing by waiting for work.
... for they know that they don't have to pay people on bench, even though by law they are supposed to ...
Must an H-1B alien be working at all times? (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a62bec897643f010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1847c9ee2f82b010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD)
As long as the employer/employee relationship exists, an H-1B alien is still in status. An H-1B alien may work in full or part-time employment and remain in status. An H-1B alien may also be on vacation, sick/maternity/paternity leave, on strike, or otherwise inactive without affecting his or her status.
... for they know that they don't have to pay people on bench, even though by law they are supposed to ...
Must an H-1B alien be working at all times? (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a62bec897643f010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1847c9ee2f82b010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD)
As long as the employer/employee relationship exists, an H-1B alien is still in status. An H-1B alien may work in full or part-time employment and remain in status. An H-1B alien may also be on vacation, sick/maternity/paternity leave, on strike, or otherwise inactive without affecting his or her status.
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kumsoft
07-26 07:05 PM
2006 PD filers dont worry abt spouse 485. Your PD would become available only after couple of years. My PD is Sept 2005 and I dont anticipate to get my GC within 2yrs. For reference look at the PERM data that is published, you would get a good idea.
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snathan
01-20 04:27 PM
Now they are start asking the E-E proof for pending I-140 also.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum106-non-immigrant-visa/995993-new-cis-memo-on-what-is-employer-employee-relationship.html#post1395085
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum106-non-immigrant-visa/995993-new-cis-memo-on-what-is-employer-employee-relationship.html#post1395085
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bigboy007
07-18 05:40 AM
Dude, You might be a new entry in to the ball of Immigration now. As said earlier , every one is free to judge and post the queries. If IV is shutting door of any questions you wouldnt have seen forum threads. There is enough discussion and direction taken on information being released to ALL members. Why one should complain IV not doing anything ?
here are some atleast, immaterial you agree or not:
1. If ppl are reaping benefits of EAD for multiple years , its becoz of IV.
2. whole of July fiasco was a win becoz of IV , not sure whether you are in the boat, but i can see the pain and how IV helped all of us.
3. all the admin fixes were co-ordinated by IV ,
4. The list goes on.. those 3 above are just enough to prove the help an ORGANIZATION did with minimal resources. Also please note none of the core are full time IV , they are also ppl like you and me.
Reason one has donor forum is becoz they are trusted sources. How can one know that you are pro-immigrant or anti-immigrant.
You would see dialy or minutes updates on sites of anti-immigrants becoz they have dedicated members and number base is too high.
Again , no one is shutting door against you, looking at your post i see you are shutting door against yourself just becoz your idea of Fax through AILA is not acceptable as an IV agenda.
Do you know first of all what provisions in CIR 2007 were in there which would have broke the back of ppl on H1 and potential immigrants? Can you confirm which provisions of CIR 2009 if there be one will help you ? will you support CIR even if it says you have to go back to india in no time ? AILA never mentioned in first place whether it would support EB community.
Plain simple, we pay Dollars even to newspaper ... You dont want to contribute for your own cause but get info for free and prove that will raise for your own cause. Those newsletters are for your benefit and collectively for the whole community.
Still IV is posting info to non-paying members , IV Never shuts its door but with limited resources they are doing what they can. Before complaining on IV you do your part. :cool:
Hope this helps you to rethink differently...
Also , FYI... AILA doesnt post all messages to free members .. all the critical info is circulated via PAID members of AILA.. this is part of any organization ... Can you complain against AILA, becoz if you are FREE member of AILA you still get emails like the one reg. Fax to CIR... There is a lot going in background for CIR than many of us even know...
Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
here are some atleast, immaterial you agree or not:
1. If ppl are reaping benefits of EAD for multiple years , its becoz of IV.
2. whole of July fiasco was a win becoz of IV , not sure whether you are in the boat, but i can see the pain and how IV helped all of us.
3. all the admin fixes were co-ordinated by IV ,
4. The list goes on.. those 3 above are just enough to prove the help an ORGANIZATION did with minimal resources. Also please note none of the core are full time IV , they are also ppl like you and me.
Reason one has donor forum is becoz they are trusted sources. How can one know that you are pro-immigrant or anti-immigrant.
You would see dialy or minutes updates on sites of anti-immigrants becoz they have dedicated members and number base is too high.
Again , no one is shutting door against you, looking at your post i see you are shutting door against yourself just becoz your idea of Fax through AILA is not acceptable as an IV agenda.
Do you know first of all what provisions in CIR 2007 were in there which would have broke the back of ppl on H1 and potential immigrants? Can you confirm which provisions of CIR 2009 if there be one will help you ? will you support CIR even if it says you have to go back to india in no time ? AILA never mentioned in first place whether it would support EB community.
Plain simple, we pay Dollars even to newspaper ... You dont want to contribute for your own cause but get info for free and prove that will raise for your own cause. Those newsletters are for your benefit and collectively for the whole community.
Still IV is posting info to non-paying members , IV Never shuts its door but with limited resources they are doing what they can. Before complaining on IV you do your part. :cool:
Hope this helps you to rethink differently...
Also , FYI... AILA doesnt post all messages to free members .. all the critical info is circulated via PAID members of AILA.. this is part of any organization ... Can you complain against AILA, becoz if you are FREE member of AILA you still get emails like the one reg. Fax to CIR... There is a lot going in background for CIR than many of us even know...
Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
gjoe
12-03 01:00 PM
The S/N ration can be made >1 by increasing the signal strength.
The noise can be cut off, but in this case the noise is what needs to be amplified and conditioned to make it look like Signal :)
How do you suggest IV 'forum' improves the Signal-to-Noise ratio?
Right now it's too noisy and is driving away determined members (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=199027#post199027)!
How do you know what I care about and not? I can give some famous examples of GC holders working for IV - Aman Kapoor founder member, Tamsen Mitchell (franklin) leader of South California chapter, and many more.
I may remain active if I feel the cause is worth spending my time, money and effort. Right now, a crowd of 25,000 tracking receipts and discussing mundane issues doesn't give me the confidence to say so. I have better things in life to fight for than a lost cause where the victims (most of them) wait for others to fight for them !
The noise can be cut off, but in this case the noise is what needs to be amplified and conditioned to make it look like Signal :)
How do you suggest IV 'forum' improves the Signal-to-Noise ratio?
Right now it's too noisy and is driving away determined members (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=199027#post199027)!
How do you know what I care about and not? I can give some famous examples of GC holders working for IV - Aman Kapoor founder member, Tamsen Mitchell (franklin) leader of South California chapter, and many more.
I may remain active if I feel the cause is worth spending my time, money and effort. Right now, a crowd of 25,000 tracking receipts and discussing mundane issues doesn't give me the confidence to say so. I have better things in life to fight for than a lost cause where the victims (most of them) wait for others to fight for them !
sc3
09-25 01:15 PM
Hey buddy sc3, How are you this morning. I just have to go to a meeting in another few minutes. Would you be around today? We have to continue our discussion from the other day. I feel like learning a lot from you and I love discussing with you. Please stick around and I will be back soon. Please don't go, ok. In the meantime, here is an excellent video you may want to watch in the meantime.
This is really good.
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Doing good, thank you. How about yourself? Sanju, with all these candies you are throwing at us, I am thinking that you might be the one my parents used to warn about (dont talk to strangers who offer you candies). So now I am very scared, you seem to have taken quite a liking to my thoughts, which scares me too (rest assured, I called dateline NBC too!, Chris Hansen is a nice person to talk to).
You want to discuss more, well there is a problem, I am not a debater. I never won any debating contests. I see the points all of you are making, and, while I can understand where from it is coming. On a bleak day, I do commiserate with it - heck I do sometimes even cross over to play the devils advocate (Note: it is an expression, I am not saying we Indians are devils (I need to clarify, because there are some who take literal meaning at times)), but in the end, I have to come back to the quota being an enabler to control the "rush" of applicants.
Some have said that EB is based solely on "merits", and that I am inventing my own intent (of diversity). No I am not, look it up. The per-country quota system is mentioned in the statues even before family or EB is discussed. Family based immigration have the per country quota too (why should an Indian Family suffer for X years, while families of other countries are able to unite sooner), but I dont see that we asked to remove the the quota completely. We only asked for removal in EB (but that is deviating from the topic).
I am not anti-immigrant, just because I argue against some provisions does not make me anti-immigrant (well the same charge will be leveled against us by CIR folks because we dont take/support their approach), and no I dont yet have my GC. I may be whatever, but I will not burn the bridge after crossing it (though I have been known to burn the bridge while I am still on it).
Yes, laws can (and shall) be changed, but can't we discuss the good and bad of what we are changing? I have seen many a legislation that have good intent at heart, but many times ends up without checks and balances (and eventually misused).
This is really good.
.
Doing good, thank you. How about yourself? Sanju, with all these candies you are throwing at us, I am thinking that you might be the one my parents used to warn about (dont talk to strangers who offer you candies). So now I am very scared, you seem to have taken quite a liking to my thoughts, which scares me too (rest assured, I called dateline NBC too!, Chris Hansen is a nice person to talk to).
You want to discuss more, well there is a problem, I am not a debater. I never won any debating contests. I see the points all of you are making, and, while I can understand where from it is coming. On a bleak day, I do commiserate with it - heck I do sometimes even cross over to play the devils advocate (Note: it is an expression, I am not saying we Indians are devils (I need to clarify, because there are some who take literal meaning at times)), but in the end, I have to come back to the quota being an enabler to control the "rush" of applicants.
Some have said that EB is based solely on "merits", and that I am inventing my own intent (of diversity). No I am not, look it up. The per-country quota system is mentioned in the statues even before family or EB is discussed. Family based immigration have the per country quota too (why should an Indian Family suffer for X years, while families of other countries are able to unite sooner), but I dont see that we asked to remove the the quota completely. We only asked for removal in EB (but that is deviating from the topic).
I am not anti-immigrant, just because I argue against some provisions does not make me anti-immigrant (well the same charge will be leveled against us by CIR folks because we dont take/support their approach), and no I dont yet have my GC. I may be whatever, but I will not burn the bridge after crossing it (though I have been known to burn the bridge while I am still on it).
Yes, laws can (and shall) be changed, but can't we discuss the good and bad of what we are changing? I have seen many a legislation that have good intent at heart, but many times ends up without checks and balances (and eventually misused).