msp1976
03-10 07:57 PM
Friend of mine (to whom I contacted regarding IV) is in USA for 7 years and knows how lobbying & party funds are raised (including Watergate) and also very much aware of "Retrogression" and problems of being "Legal".
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
First of all We are not into any 'gate' here...We are not creating any 'watergate' or 'immigrationgate'...
All activities we do are legal and you would eventually get the expenditure report too...
Now If you try to build any organization that is non paid completely volunteer...basis, all kinds of things do creep in...
There is no avoiding that....
Your 'friend' has a very idealized version of public organization in his mind....
But the fact is that all public volunteer based organization(especially the ones so heavily populated by 'high skilled' ones) are going to be chaotic....
The only public organizations that are not chaotic are either the Chinese communist party or paramilitary organization like fire fighters and police departments..All other organizations are going to be how you described...the different %ges..
Now you have 2 choices.....
Choice 1. Try to work with the chaos and have some voice in the legislative process...
Choice 2. Shut your self out and not have a voice at all and mind you one less voice makes our collective voice weaker....
The choice is yours to make.........
Also, he is aware of cause of IV and appreciate that but he is un-comfortable because whenever he login to IV, he noticed that:
- more than 40-50% respondents are talking about money/contributions & signatures showing how much they have contributed as of today,
- 10-15% are talking about blocking non-contributors(calling by Free Lunchers etc..),
- 5 % are Pseudo intellectuals (talking BIG but dont know immigration basics like - PD, issues of I-140/I485)
- 5% are always trying to shutdown others, accusing/calling by names to other forum members (he says "Highly skilled" in accusing!!)
- and remaining are "Positive" contributors for IVs retrogression cause (talking about - I spoke to senators office, can we arrange rallies, when to Fax/fliers, when State chapters are going to meet, posting excerpts from senate/CSPAN/News etc..)
Is our audience is so? Can we focus on our cause? pl be together like.. Like-Minded!!!
First of all We are not into any 'gate' here...We are not creating any 'watergate' or 'immigrationgate'...
All activities we do are legal and you would eventually get the expenditure report too...
Now If you try to build any organization that is non paid completely volunteer...basis, all kinds of things do creep in...
There is no avoiding that....
Your 'friend' has a very idealized version of public organization in his mind....
But the fact is that all public volunteer based organization(especially the ones so heavily populated by 'high skilled' ones) are going to be chaotic....
The only public organizations that are not chaotic are either the Chinese communist party or paramilitary organization like fire fighters and police departments..All other organizations are going to be how you described...the different %ges..
Now you have 2 choices.....
Choice 1. Try to work with the chaos and have some voice in the legislative process...
Choice 2. Shut your self out and not have a voice at all and mind you one less voice makes our collective voice weaker....
The choice is yours to make.........
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hybrid101
06-09 07:41 AM
Heres mine. Not too good though.
paskal
07-17 09:35 PM
I don't know why but we tend to be satisfied with lsmall benefits...
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
we seized on an opportunity and won a battle.
the war is still to be one.
there is no way this over. we will fight till retrogression ends.
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
we seized on an opportunity and won a battle.
the war is still to be one.
there is no way this over. we will fight till retrogression ends.
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leoindiano
10-30 10:01 AM
caliguy,
I am in same boat as you.
2 i-140's approved with same company, both are EB2, one is RIR one is PERM.
PERM one had Jan 2006 PD where my RIR had Nov 2004.
I-485 was applied using Nov 2004. USCIS may be looking at other one and thinking PD is not current. What a mess.
I am in same boat as you.
2 i-140's approved with same company, both are EB2, one is RIR one is PERM.
PERM one had Jan 2006 PD where my RIR had Nov 2004.
I-485 was applied using Nov 2004. USCIS may be looking at other one and thinking PD is not current. What a mess.
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singhsa3
03-13 01:06 PM
Folks,
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don’t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don’t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
GCMan007
03-11 10:58 AM
Got a mails from USCIS that both my case and my spouse's case are approved and card will arrive shortly. However the online status still says 'Pending'.
Is this common and will the online status change in a couple of days?
TSC
EB2 PD Dec 2003
Filed date 08/02/2007
Is this common and will the online status change in a couple of days?
TSC
EB2 PD Dec 2003
Filed date 08/02/2007
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kumar1
11-01 11:42 PM
Please put a 3rd option saying "HELL NO!"
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eb3_nepa
04-18 09:22 AM
Considering that there are more than 2000 members who havent contributed yet. Even $10 per member wud mean $20K straight away. Common guys, this is tax refund season. Surely we can all send in atleast between $10 and $20. That is cheap change considering most of our life styles. Internet access costs more than that, Filling your car with a tank of regular gas costs more than that. ;)
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rajagopal_04
12-28 10:13 AM
My H1b (Revalidation for 7th yr) was on Dec 13th 1:45PM...Still hasnt receive my passport...Called the consulate ...they mentioned PIMS check is needed in order to stamp the passport...My travel date is Jan 9th..and I am also getting anxious...When asked about how long I will have to wait..they said to call back on Jan 5th (!!!????)...
Consulate apparently was on vacation from Dec 21st thru 26th..in US also until 2nd is pretty much 'holiday season' (lot of folks on vacation) (I hear this PIMS check is done by some system in Okalahoma)..
I hope I wont have to postpone my tickets...Looks like this system got kicked in Late Nov,Dec (Per Murthy)..May be we are the gini pigs..
I echoed my concern to the US consulate that delays will cause significant financial loss (extra vacation days, loss of pay, travel plan changes etc)...I dont think they are bothered..but it will be good if who ever is affected can send emails/call consulate and echo these concerns..('May be' all of us together will have a bigger voice)
Today i got reply from Chennai US consulate.
"Due to the implementation of new system requirements for the processing of petition based non-immigrant visas, the dispatch of passports with these types of visas from our office may be delayed by several days beyond regular processing times. Please wait at least seven working days after your date of interview before contacting our office regarding your passport."
Anyway I cancelled my wife's flight tickets, and won't book until they handover the passport to VFS. I agree with jitnair, this delay is affecting all our travel and personal plans in very BAD way.
Consulate apparently was on vacation from Dec 21st thru 26th..in US also until 2nd is pretty much 'holiday season' (lot of folks on vacation) (I hear this PIMS check is done by some system in Okalahoma)..
I hope I wont have to postpone my tickets...Looks like this system got kicked in Late Nov,Dec (Per Murthy)..May be we are the gini pigs..
I echoed my concern to the US consulate that delays will cause significant financial loss (extra vacation days, loss of pay, travel plan changes etc)...I dont think they are bothered..but it will be good if who ever is affected can send emails/call consulate and echo these concerns..('May be' all of us together will have a bigger voice)
Today i got reply from Chennai US consulate.
"Due to the implementation of new system requirements for the processing of petition based non-immigrant visas, the dispatch of passports with these types of visas from our office may be delayed by several days beyond regular processing times. Please wait at least seven working days after your date of interview before contacting our office regarding your passport."
Anyway I cancelled my wife's flight tickets, and won't book until they handover the passport to VFS. I agree with jitnair, this delay is affecting all our travel and personal plans in very BAD way.
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rheoretro
09-14 10:36 AM
The objective here is to add members; to acheive that we need get to the places where they go.
1. regularly visited websites
I am not saying we should advertise in Indian sites only. I am saying advertise in the sites where immigration applicants visit regularly.
Grocery stores & company HR sites are obviously other means to get attention of the immigration applicants.
Absolutely, I agree with you. Please help us out! Thank you!
1. regularly visited websites
I am not saying we should advertise in Indian sites only. I am saying advertise in the sites where immigration applicants visit regularly.
Grocery stores & company HR sites are obviously other means to get attention of the immigration applicants.
Absolutely, I agree with you. Please help us out! Thank you!
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anandrajesh
03-26 04:49 PM
I got an LUD on 485 when i got AP approved.
Dont even try to rationalise how the f*** those systems are inter connected and how they roll :o
OK I will stop wondering abt how the F*** this systems are inter-connected and stop rationalising all this. I see the point in worrying only abt things we can control.
Dont even try to rationalise how the f*** those systems are inter connected and how they roll :o
OK I will stop wondering abt how the F*** this systems are inter-connected and stop rationalising all this. I see the point in worrying only abt things we can control.
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polapragada
08-13 08:43 PM
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
I feel education should be rewarded (Every where). High skilled should get prefference.
chaanakya may be you should consider putting your words in soft intangiable worlds...
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
I feel education should be rewarded (Every where). High skilled should get prefference.
chaanakya may be you should consider putting your words in soft intangiable worlds...
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DesiGuy
09-17 12:39 PM
Hon. Conyers Jr.
Chairman
(D) Michigan, 14th
http://judiciary.house.gov/about/members.html
Chairman
(D) Michigan, 14th
http://judiciary.house.gov/about/members.html
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walking_dude
12-03 11:14 AM
IMO, this is the biggest problem plaguing IV - perception of IV as just another online forum (community) or a "chat room" as a newspaper reporter put it ! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/NEWS07/711230422/1009) (under the heading "Taking Action").
This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
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Strength of online communities is always the members...the higher the members the better.
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This point IV = chat room has come to the fore, several times in discussions. A lot of persons have refused to join IV efforts with the ruse "IV is just an online forum where members discuss mundane matters". Whether someone admits it or not, IV has a serious image problem !. It needs to be corrected soon (by more than making another announcement type "We are not a forum" post !)
Strength of an(y) organization comes from contributing, active members. And not from MINOWs (Members-In-Name-Only Wusses)
...
Strength of online communities is always the members...the higher the members the better.
...
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nshantha
07-19 09:48 AM
Mine also received by R. WILLIAMS on July 2nd at 7:55 AM.
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MetteBB
06-12 09:38 AM
ok since others are doing more than one I thought I'd give it another shot too... here's my second try:.... looks kinda lame :(
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pappu
07-01 09:38 PM
It is sad to say the thread started by one of the senior member on similar lines was closed abruptly for discussion.I know IV's main intension is to help on immigration front but it won't be too different to help other immigrant brothers trapped in situations like this.
Are there any reservations on voicing opinios about this?
gc_freedom
No thread was closed. I just started a new thread with a post from another thread.
Are there any reservations on voicing opinios about this?
gc_freedom
No thread was closed. I just started a new thread with a post from another thread.
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eb3_nepa
06-07 09:17 AM
Awesome post logiclife!
On a side note. I would LOVE it if people working here on Visas were NOT referred to as "aliens". It is VERY demeaning to people of other countries.
On a side note. I would LOVE it if people working here on Visas were NOT referred to as "aliens". It is VERY demeaning to people of other countries.
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felix31
02-05 10:15 PM
Not all professions can apply for H1Bs. You need to have specific skills that the US does NOT have. Someone on here had once posted that his wife could not work as a teacher although the school was ready to offer her a job, coz there is no H1B category for teachers. The H1B visa cannot help spouses in all professions. Hence my suggestion.
About how this will solve retrogression, IT WONT. My point is instead of trying to bring this retrogression beast down, maybe we should look at alternatives to work around it.
H1B visa CAN BE and IS given to teachers. That poster may have had the problem similar to mine and that is having spent 6 yrs in H4, she was ineligible for H1. Let me remind everyone that decoupling of H1/H4 time happened only 2 months ago. Therefore, if the lady in question already possess Bachelor degree (as min requirement for H1) and is otherwise certifiable I dont see a problem for transfer to H1 .
the only problem may be in finding a school district willing to file H1 WELL in advance and accepting the fact that she cannot start working on SEP 1st (when the new school year starts) but OCT 1st.
About how this will solve retrogression, IT WONT. My point is instead of trying to bring this retrogression beast down, maybe we should look at alternatives to work around it.
H1B visa CAN BE and IS given to teachers. That poster may have had the problem similar to mine and that is having spent 6 yrs in H4, she was ineligible for H1. Let me remind everyone that decoupling of H1/H4 time happened only 2 months ago. Therefore, if the lady in question already possess Bachelor degree (as min requirement for H1) and is otherwise certifiable I dont see a problem for transfer to H1 .
the only problem may be in finding a school district willing to file H1 WELL in advance and accepting the fact that she cannot start working on SEP 1st (when the new school year starts) but OCT 1st.
Phogs
08-11 01:27 PM
EB3-P Nov'04
JazzByTheBay
12-12 09:03 PM
However, as far as access to some information and benefits goes, this can be restricted to members. If you think this issue impacts you as severely as it does, why the hesitation to ensure something gets done about it, and get regular access to information and benefits without the clutter?
jazz
I dont think it's a good idea. The fundraising thread demonstrates that we do have people who understand the stakes and are willing to do something about it. Ofcourse we need a lot more money but we should be able to persuade people to contribute voluntarily. I don't like exclusive clubs
jazz
I dont think it's a good idea. The fundraising thread demonstrates that we do have people who understand the stakes and are willing to do something about it. Ofcourse we need a lot more money but we should be able to persuade people to contribute voluntarily. I don't like exclusive clubs