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  • rajuseattle
    04-18 08:11 PM
    NNreddy:

    I would request you start a fresh thread and people can answer your questions.





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  • ash0210
    02-06 02:24 PM
    Oh Boy...Big guys like "Aristotle" stuck in Retro...just Kidding...:D


    India, sorry for missing that in the earlier post.





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  • sbabunle
    08-19 04:11 PM
    Right on bro
    ((Frustration + Malice - Grace) * Jealousy) ^ (Low linguistic skills) = This post

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  • JazzByTheBay
    12-13 04:13 PM
    Information we want to publicize, and information that we should keep restricted to members.

    jazz

    No. that's not the point. See, you can't force people. If X is "recurring contributor" now, he has done that willingly and that is the best essence for us.
    As long as people support the cause and organization "Willingly" we will have infinite horizons to grow. The moment you bring "Burocracy" in, ultimately momentum will die.. may be slowly or quickly. Historically, IV threads are the major attentive media to declare the existence. We should not kill that with any enforcement of "Paid membership"...It is always hard to wake people. If that would be easy than nobody would have used the word "Struggle"..right:). On other hand yes there is a dier need of increasing financial strength exponentially and that too quickly is at high priority. We need to think and find other ways and resources.



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  • Bokke
    06-20 05:40 AM
    I think it ends like tomorrow... or something... not sure.

    - Entries are to be posted in this thread by 20th June 2005

    so it ends today huh ?





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  • logiclife
    02-13 01:45 PM
    I have tried to convince people (Indians and some Chinese) to join IV. People don't. They don't believe IV has the capability to get anything done. A lot of people don't care if IV existed or not. They believe that Congress will get to it when it deems right. Core members were asking a few weeks ago if that is the message people are sending. Yes it is.

    Yeah. We know that. A lot of people think IV cannot get anything done. IV never promised that we will cause CIR to happen. We never promised that we will cause SKIL to happen. They all happen, mostly on their own. IV's role is to add amendments when they come and remove provisions that hurt us. We did that successfully last year by getting the hard country cap removed. No one else was interested in removing the hard cap. It took a lot of co-ordination and lot of trips and lot of hard work to get it done. If that harmful provision had stayed, then the new quota of 650,000 in S 2611 would have been useless. People forget achivements of IV or think that it was negligible. Retrogression would have been exacerbated with hard country cap.

    And this year, if CIR or SKIL bill come, we will be able to achive much much more. We are in much better shape and its hard for me to convince you of that unless I divulge details. That I cannot do. Its up to you if you can trust IV core on that.

    You are reading the message right. I don't want IV to die. I am suggesting people with leadership skills to come forward and get SOME F**KING RESULTS. That is what is needed. It is do or die situation.

    Yes, we know that your situation and a lot of other people's situation is do-or-die situation. We know that lot of visitors and members are being squeezed by their situation (exploiting employer, travel restrictions, naggin H4 spouse, no wage growth, no job mobility, no promotions) and that will end only when they get out of H1 and get GC. Its actually the do-or-die situation that prompted the creation of IV.

    I am not a leader and I don't want to pretend that I am. I ask others who are not to step down and encourage the right people to take leadership positions.

    That's what it seemed from your original post. And nothing wrong with that. If you are up to the job then you are welcome. We already have state-chapters and people are not actively participating in that. Last week, on California's state chapter conf call, 2 people came. If you take leadership, you need to do things locally like meeting with other people in your city, forming a group of 4-5 people and going and meeting your congressman. And if you want to be in IV core, then you have to call us on the phone number listed and we can see if you can add any value to core by doing things we routinely do, like content prep, website maint, travelling to DC for meetings, talking to other orgs etc. If you are up to the job, sure, why not. Anyone who considers themselves fit for IV core, please call us. We really do need help as we are overwhelmed.

    I am a very dissatisfied member of IV. Are you satisfied with IV so far? Why doesn't everyone raise these questions? What has caused us to fail so far?

    I am dissatisfied too with the results. Its not like I am a happy camper on H1. What has caused us to fail? The same thing that has caused us to fail last year, the same thing that caused industry to fail in getting H1 quota raised, the same thing that caused failure of Universities to get F4 visa for masters degree holders. And these guys have lobbying budget in millions? Why do you think they failed?

    Whatever caused their failure, caused our failure too. In DC, issues are not debated and legislated based on morality and merits of those issues. They are taken up based on contemporary politics and other factors like lobbying, public attention, elections and political parties.

    For example: Last year, they debated a constitutional amendment to ban flag burned in USA. And spent precious time of congress on debating it. How to you think that would have helped anyone? Even it had passed, what was the merit of the issue? Flag burned mostly happens outside USA. In USA people rarely burn US flags. So banning flag burning in USA is like banning metric system. Its meaningless. Yet, they spent time on it.

    Read papers, read articles from other lobbying orgs and learn something. Legislations dont happen on their own because the issues carry weight and have merits. Merits have nothing to do with congressional action.

    To quote a bestselling economist Steven Levitt :
    "If morality is how we would like the world to work, economy is how the world actually works".

    Same thing applies to US congress. They dont set their timetable of bills based on morality and merits. There are other factors.



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  • coopheal
    05-23 04:38 PM
    When you call the law makers and tell them you support XYZ bill.. my question is what do you get out of it!

    When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
    >who are not from his constituency,
    >who can�t vote and
    >who can�t contribute to his election campaign�
    what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill�

    So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call� a more logical approach would be to :
    a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members� login and sign the forms digitally�
    b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups �.
    c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head�and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..�saar �support the bill saar�..

    How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!

    But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess �. And it�s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!

    Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!

    :cool:
    Clarify to me how your objections dont apply to a petition signed by 25000 legal aliens:
    >who are not from his constituency,
    >who can�t vote and
    >who can�t contribute to his election campaign�





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  • ramaonline
    03-22 12:12 PM
    AC21 is a law but certain provisions of AC21 have been introduced in separate memos.
    Job portability under AC21 is also part of a guidance / memo - so if any AC21 case goes for hearing in an immigration court, any change of employers while 485 is pending is considered illegal. This is not very common though.



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  • pthoko
    06-19 12:45 AM
    IMG is very good but they dont cover pre existing conditionsl.

    Hi,
    What do you mean by IMG is very good?? Could you please elaborate??

    Thanks





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  • itsokgc
    07-15 03:13 PM
    I came to know, where late about immigrationvoice. I really appreciate you efforts, for all the right causes of the legal immigrants.

    I signed.



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  • coopheal
    01-09 10:16 PM
    ...
    DO a rally and I will be there with contributions, do something big, I am sure more like will join the cause. Not a free rider but at the same time don't like to be taken for a free ride!
    ...


    Make monthly monetary contribution for IV as a start.......





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  • Libra
    01-31 10:42 AM
    also please send letters to WH and IV.



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  • logiclife
    02-05 04:46 PM
    Before this thread takes a turn where supporters and opponents of this idea start another forum war, let me say this clearly:

    IV is not going to adopt this as an agenda item. The reason is quite simple: H4s not being able to work is low on priority of problems that need to be fixed in order to mitigate retrogression or other consequences of retrogression.

    And frankly, we do not have extra kind of support to add new agenda items on our list.

    A whopping 200 people signed up for recurring contributions of $20 per month. Out of 8000 people who registered here and got emails about it. However, almost every week, there is no shortage of new ideas and no shortage of opinions on those new ideas from people.

    We get $20 deposits each month from 200 people. But as far as opinions are concerned, we get hundreds of them each week. How nice? I wish we had some machine to convert those opinions into dollars.

    If you dont agree:

    Now, if someone feels offended by this, and feels that H4 issues are orphan issues, or if this organization does not represent them anymore since IV does not want to adopt H4 related issues on its agenda, and if that someone wants to leave, then please leave without any threats and feel free to start your own organization.

    And this thread has all the features and ingredients neccesary to become a forum war. If that happens this thread will be deleted.





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  • walking_dude
    11-19 10:58 AM
    Agreed you cannot march for your own rights. Least you can do is post your displeasure at a web page. Can we do that?

    Contact - http://www.wwj.com/pages/7288.php

    Sample Letter

    ---------------
    Dear News Editor(s),

    As a WWJ 950 listener and an immigrant living in Michigan, I am concerned about the negative impacts on immigrants by the airing of your show "WWJ Business Breakfast" with Mr. LOU DOBBS, which is scheduled to air on Nov 29 between 8 a.m. - 9:30 a.m.

    Mr. Dobbs is known for his strong views against immigrants, including considering immigrants to be responsible for the spread of incurable diseases such as Drug-resistant Tuberculosis, Leprosy etc. From past experience on CNN, he is also highly likely to blame the current crisis in Auto Industry to the so-called "importation of cheap labor from third world countries".

    He is known to make exaggerated statements such as "Four hundred thousand H1Bs granted in a year" where as facts show otherwise. As per government figures, federal government awarded 124,096 H-1B visas in the fiscal year ending October 2005, the most recent annual totals available. That includes renewed visas, which don't count against the annual cap. These dramatic exaggerations distort the reality and provide a falsified alarmist view of the situation; which works against the interests of Immigrants ,businesses and American economy.

    In the interests of fairness, you should also air the counter-views while providing coverage to such strong one-sided views. This would provide a balanced coverage to your viewers.

    In the absence of such unbiased coverage, Mr. Dobbs verbal attacks may provoke physical attacks against foreigners as well as any foreign-looking persons by misguided elements provoked by your show. If such incidents do happen, please understand that your network will be indirectly responsible and liable to the foreigners affected.

    As a concerned party I would like to know -

    1) What action your network is taking to provide coverage of the other point of view, in the interests of fairness?

    2) What action is your network taking to ensure that Lou Dobbs verbal attacks on foreigners do not translate into physical attacks on foreigners living in Michigan?

    3) What action is your network taking to ensure that Lou Dobbs doesn't use exaggerated falsifications to justify his views. providing your listeners a wrong picture?

    Appreciate hearing from you soon.

    Yours sincerely,
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    Phone: 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx
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  • adobe howm
    08-26 04:12 PM
    Folks,

    This is not a financial help/grievance forum to discuss about funds transfer problems, or bank reputation. There are many more places for that purpose. If you cannot find one, start one for yourself.

    This forum is meant for discussing US employment based immigration related matters.

    If you still have any doubts, click on the "About us" link on top of the web page and dispel your doubts.

    Admins: Please close this thread.


    I understand that you are trying to be smart but you not quite sounds so. sorry

    of course - this is off topic but the whole point is WE are suffering from it and DOES affects us - may be you are not nor you have any clue about what this means to you.

    the goal of our community is to drive out the common enemy, share our experience to benefit others- may be sometimes it does sounds off topic but that does matters to us, the same way how $$$ matters to you. I would recommend you just think about bit before start comment on it.





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  • ganguteli
    06-02 11:50 AM
    Chanduv23,

    Can someone use AC21 even if the person has not worked in the company but 180 days has passed?



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  • sparuthi
    09-17 12:54 PM
    I just watched the voting 10 against and 7 in favor.. was this for recapture?





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  • ronhira
    07-18 06:54 AM
    dear mr. "audience",

    one more "highly skilled" immigrant thinks she/he is "audience".... "audience"!!!! nice

    life is going waste in gc backlog but .... "audience", oh and someone forgot to ask, while you are watching this movie titled 'my life is being wasted in gc backlog'.... would you like to get some popcorn and coke with it..... why? because that's what "audience" do..... they enjoy the game and movie when someone else is doing something..... but the "audience" sit on the sidelines and watch

    you seem to very much enjoy this movie 'my life is being wasted in gc backlog'? with your kind of star cast it has got to be a grammy winner... thank you mr. "audience" for the wonderful performance.... time for you to speak out your garmmy winner speech, and don't forget to thank all the people on that list.... aila aila aila aila aila aila, and btw, and whom are we forgetting, did you miss out aila



    Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.

    I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.

    As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.

    By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.

    Thanks!!
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  • cgs
    01-29 07:26 PM
    I know a lot of people using pre approved labor certs waiting for GC. What happens to them? I think this rule will affect only those who are trying to do Labor substitution in future.
    * Since this is a final rule, upon approval by OMB, the elimination of substitution and 45-day validity of certified labor certification will be triggered. Take this message as a very special alert! This rule will not only eliminate substitutition on the OMB approval and release in the Federal Register but also kill the certified labor certification unless it is used within 45 days from the date of certification! Please stay tuned to this web site reporting.





    gjoe
    10-28 05:35 PM
    I was seeing lot of posts in this forum about reverse brain drain, so I wanted to comeup with a question which would answer my question without doubt.
    I wanted to see if all those who are in the GC queue and think that they are a very important for America and insist on that in their signature by saying "Help us stop reverse brain drain" are really meaning what they say.

    I beleive if we are so much in demand we can get a job in another country and have similar quality of life or better. So only poeple who are confident of the reverse brain drain and America should stop it will not hesitate to vote "Yes" if they are so frustated with the GC wait times.

    Once again thanks to everyone who so far particiapted in this poll and posted comments.

    Some people have given me negative reps for this poll saying it is useless but never say why "they" think it is useless. I would appreciate if you can post your opinion with those negative reps. Offcourse postive reps can be without opinon :D





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