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06-12 01:50 PM
Yes I do agree with you. This is a most affected category these days and even look at the past few yrs data, very slow movement.
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eastindia
01-10 11:49 AM
Precisely,
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
How about you do something big like start a rally or sit on hunger strike in DC. I and many others I know on H1B will support you. We are all just waiting for someone to do it because we cannot do it. We all just write good posts and are free riders. But if you are willing myself and my friends on H1B will support you. Go sit in DC on a hunger strike or something and we will all support you.
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
How about you do something big like start a rally or sit on hunger strike in DC. I and many others I know on H1B will support you. We are all just waiting for someone to do it because we cannot do it. We all just write good posts and are free riders. But if you are willing myself and my friends on H1B will support you. Go sit in DC on a hunger strike or something and we will all support you.
asanghi
05-24 02:07 PM
Hey hey, I don't have to apply with my current legal name do I? ;)
They have your finger prints
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05-23 04:19 PM
please keep calling and don't get distracted. We have 2 CHC members on board. The more the calls, more CHC members we can bring on board for these bills. So, please call.
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sobers
02-20 02:14 PM
Sensenbrenner Statement after President Bush's Speech on the State of the Union
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- In response to President Bush's speech on the State of the Union, Menomonee Falls Representative Jim Sensenbrenner issued the following statement:
“President Bush’s speech tonight was a strong and visionary statement that accurately reflected the state of our union. Since his last such address, our nation has gone through waves of lows and highs. From the horrors of Hurricanes Katrina and Wilma, to the December elections in Iraq where the Iraqis chose their first representational government under their new constitution, Americans have experienced both great pain and great elation.
But as the President said, ‘Our work in Iraq is difficult because our enemy is brutal.’ This brutality is continually demonstrated by the actions of terrorists who prey upon innocent men and women to preach their message of hatred. As our nation makes progress in the War on Terror, I hope to see our sons and daughters return home from their tour of duty -- American soldiers will stand down as Iraqi soldiers stand up.
On the subject of immigration, I was pleased to hear the President discuss the need for orderly and secure borders, and a plan that calls for stronger immigration enforcement that, among other things, rejects amnesty for illegal aliens. There is much work that remains to be done as we try to build consensus. The Border Security bill I introduced and the House passed last year is just the first step towards a comprehensive immigration plan. Currently, our immigration laws rival our nation’s convoluted tax code.
This highlights our need to hold the line on spending in Congress. In order to maintain America’s competitive edge, a recurring theme through the President’s speech, we must spend our taxpayer dollars wisely. I agree with the President that the federal budget includes too many special projects, better known as “pork.” To that end, I support providing the President with a line item veto.
Tonight Congress has been challenged to act on many issues. I accept the challenge laid down by President Bush to deliver common sense legislation that will continue to improve our security and quality of life.”
Contact: Raj Bharwani, (202) 225-5101
Sensenbrenner Press Office
http://www.house.gov/sensenbrenner/pr20060131.html
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Much work remains to be done...as we try build consensus. This (Sensenbrenner Bill) is just the first step...toward Comprehensive immigration.
My reading is that sensenbrenner seems to be open to consensus...and amenable to comprehensive reform (which in other words is tougher border security and interior enforcement + guest worker program similar to Coryn-Kyls'). Despite public rhetoric, if there is enough time we may see such legislation come to pass in the 109th Congress. We need to see how we can bring about meaningful EB visa relief in such a scenario.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- In response to President Bush's speech on the State of the Union, Menomonee Falls Representative Jim Sensenbrenner issued the following statement:
“President Bush’s speech tonight was a strong and visionary statement that accurately reflected the state of our union. Since his last such address, our nation has gone through waves of lows and highs. From the horrors of Hurricanes Katrina and Wilma, to the December elections in Iraq where the Iraqis chose their first representational government under their new constitution, Americans have experienced both great pain and great elation.
But as the President said, ‘Our work in Iraq is difficult because our enemy is brutal.’ This brutality is continually demonstrated by the actions of terrorists who prey upon innocent men and women to preach their message of hatred. As our nation makes progress in the War on Terror, I hope to see our sons and daughters return home from their tour of duty -- American soldiers will stand down as Iraqi soldiers stand up.
On the subject of immigration, I was pleased to hear the President discuss the need for orderly and secure borders, and a plan that calls for stronger immigration enforcement that, among other things, rejects amnesty for illegal aliens. There is much work that remains to be done as we try to build consensus. The Border Security bill I introduced and the House passed last year is just the first step towards a comprehensive immigration plan. Currently, our immigration laws rival our nation’s convoluted tax code.
This highlights our need to hold the line on spending in Congress. In order to maintain America’s competitive edge, a recurring theme through the President’s speech, we must spend our taxpayer dollars wisely. I agree with the President that the federal budget includes too many special projects, better known as “pork.” To that end, I support providing the President with a line item veto.
Tonight Congress has been challenged to act on many issues. I accept the challenge laid down by President Bush to deliver common sense legislation that will continue to improve our security and quality of life.”
Contact: Raj Bharwani, (202) 225-5101
Sensenbrenner Press Office
http://www.house.gov/sensenbrenner/pr20060131.html
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Much work remains to be done...as we try build consensus. This (Sensenbrenner Bill) is just the first step...toward Comprehensive immigration.
My reading is that sensenbrenner seems to be open to consensus...and amenable to comprehensive reform (which in other words is tougher border security and interior enforcement + guest worker program similar to Coryn-Kyls'). Despite public rhetoric, if there is enough time we may see such legislation come to pass in the 109th Congress. We need to see how we can bring about meaningful EB visa relief in such a scenario.
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12-09 10:29 AM
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One more followup question. How do we usually know LUD ?
One more followup question. How do we usually know LUD ?
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usernameone
05-26 02:45 PM
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.1085:
There is a chance that all unused visas over the last several years will get assigned to FB quota and EB folks will loose all those visas for ever.
There is a chance that all unused visas over the last several years will get assigned to FB quota and EB folks will loose all those visas for ever.
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JulyFiler
08-14 07:23 PM
I agree completely with the OP. Education should be rewarded. People with higher education should be rewarded likewise. PhD > MS > B.XXX. If you have done masters and possess higher qualifications but had to apply in a lower EB category it is your problem or the job you applied for does not require higher qualifications. Either way, it is not USCIS prob.
I also agree with the fact the OP mentioned that MS folks and PhD folks who sweat out eventually end up losing more financially. This is the first time I am seeing some relief/reward for higher qualified people. I have seen people (have friends too) who came in 2000 straight on H1 and have been making big bucks since then and stuck in EB3. I have seen my friends port to EB2 and get GC. All this makes me feel like I have wasted 2-3 yrs in getting a masters. It is time we got rewarded. This does not mean I want others to be punished. I am saying people with higher qualifications need to be rewarded.
Chanakya has posted very balanced views. Good job man. Lot of folks are bitter and have misconstrued your arguments and jumped right in to attack without even thinking.
You are also right that very very rarely do you see a mature discussion in these forums. which is why I just keep away. I just laugh at the sillines that is often displayed here. People dont want to see what they dont want to see. Just few minutes back I saw a post where the OP claims to have entered the country in 1999, applied in 2004 and got his GC. He says he "has been waiting for 8.5 years". thats silly. he applied in 2004. so the wait is only 4.5 yrs. If that was the case I came to this country in 1999. I should have gotten the GC before his. should I crib about it now?
Btw, I am in EB2. I made a choice to do my masters expecting some benefits. What use is the degree if it doesnt benefit me? No one would be going for MS and PhD if they are all same.
Welcome reddots.. :)
I also agree with the fact the OP mentioned that MS folks and PhD folks who sweat out eventually end up losing more financially. This is the first time I am seeing some relief/reward for higher qualified people. I have seen people (have friends too) who came in 2000 straight on H1 and have been making big bucks since then and stuck in EB3. I have seen my friends port to EB2 and get GC. All this makes me feel like I have wasted 2-3 yrs in getting a masters. It is time we got rewarded. This does not mean I want others to be punished. I am saying people with higher qualifications need to be rewarded.
Chanakya has posted very balanced views. Good job man. Lot of folks are bitter and have misconstrued your arguments and jumped right in to attack without even thinking.
You are also right that very very rarely do you see a mature discussion in these forums. which is why I just keep away. I just laugh at the sillines that is often displayed here. People dont want to see what they dont want to see. Just few minutes back I saw a post where the OP claims to have entered the country in 1999, applied in 2004 and got his GC. He says he "has been waiting for 8.5 years". thats silly. he applied in 2004. so the wait is only 4.5 yrs. If that was the case I came to this country in 1999. I should have gotten the GC before his. should I crib about it now?
Btw, I am in EB2. I made a choice to do my masters expecting some benefits. What use is the degree if it doesnt benefit me? No one would be going for MS and PhD if they are all same.
Welcome reddots.. :)
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pbojja
10-03 11:38 AM
^^
That is not really an answer, you know?
I have been a long time passive audience in this joint and now I am voicing my opinion with a logical and polite discussion. What's with the god forgiving my ignorance, if any?
Ok here is my question how come all EB3 are "body shopped consulants" and what are EB2 ? "High profiled consulatants" ? I want to know what is gctest ?
there is nothing wrong in expressing but taking a category and calling them body shoped is not the right way to express ...
you think you are having a logical and polite conversation - thats the ignorance part .
That is not really an answer, you know?
I have been a long time passive audience in this joint and now I am voicing my opinion with a logical and polite discussion. What's with the god forgiving my ignorance, if any?
Ok here is my question how come all EB3 are "body shopped consulants" and what are EB2 ? "High profiled consulatants" ? I want to know what is gctest ?
there is nothing wrong in expressing but taking a category and calling them body shoped is not the right way to express ...
you think you are having a logical and polite conversation - thats the ignorance part .
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sreeraghu
11-03 04:51 PM
Please Vote, this is one of the best way to know, where we stand. Make a lil easy in making further decisions.
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01-17 11:54 AM
Pappu, aman and other IV core members...please guide us this fight..
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cooldude
07-18 11:44 PM
I-140 on 6/07 & pending
I-485 arrived to NSC july-1st @10:10 pm
status unknown.
My lawyer sent me the fedex tracking sheet for the I-485 package sent to:
USCIS
Nebraska Service Center
850 S Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
I did not see any PO Box on the Fedex tracking sheet. I am not sure if she put the PO Box on the shipping label or not??
Is it a big deal?? Will my application be accepted.
Please help
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I-485 arrived to NSC july-1st @10:10 pm
status unknown.
My lawyer sent me the fedex tracking sheet for the I-485 package sent to:
USCIS
Nebraska Service Center
850 S Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
I did not see any PO Box on the Fedex tracking sheet. I am not sure if she put the PO Box on the shipping label or not??
Is it a big deal?? Will my application be accepted.
Please help
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04-20 03:51 PM
ignore :D
whatever the case is, this guy is doing it legally. Granted, he is taking advantage of the loop hole in the system. HOWEVER, it is legal. Trust me, we have taken advantage of several similar system loops holes in our lives.
Everything is fair game as long as it is legal.
whatever the case is, this guy is doing it legally. Granted, he is taking advantage of the loop hole in the system. HOWEVER, it is legal. Trust me, we have taken advantage of several similar system loops holes in our lives.
Everything is fair game as long as it is legal.
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AuntyDan
02-12 08:13 PM
I am in eb3 row, have a job waiting for me in the usa, but i am in england, Have a PD of june 06, am terrified that my job offer will be withdrawn if i dont make some progress soon. Have had job offer for 1 year this week.
Could EB3 row become current soon.??
You don't indicate what stage your application is in (LC/PERM, 140 etc.) Is there a reason your prospective employer has not applied for an H1-B so you can start work before you get a greencard? (This is what 99% of EB applicants have done.)
Assuming they can't or won't, to answer your specific question here is my opinion (FWIW I'm English, EB-3 ROW with a PD of May 2003, on my 8th year of H-1B employment in the USA.):
My guess is the odds are about 50/50 that some form of immigration reform will be passed by the US government "soon" that would positively affect EB3 ROW. The practical definition of "soon" in this case is by September 2007, which allows time for debate, compromise, Presidential wanking around and who knows what Kafka-esque delays in actually enacting the law.
IF this happened there is still no guarantee this change would be positive enough to entirely clear the backlog that so a PD of June 2006 might still not to become current by September 2007.
IF this doesn't happen there is practically 0 chance of any changes that would positively effect EB retrogression prior to March 2009. (After the new government is elected in November 2008 AND then convenes a new session AND then deals with more urgent business than immigration reform.)
So some (hopefully) practical advice:
1) If you can get an H-1B now then do so
2) If you can't get an H-1B start studying for a Masters NOW. This will help you in the long run even if you get your Greencard through EB-3 because higher degrees from the UK are very valued in the USA. And if there is no improvement in EB-3 you at least have a chance at EB-2.
3) If you have no family ties and just want to go someone in North America you would almost certainly be eligible for permanent Canadian residency. You can just go to their website and fill out a simple, points-based questionnaire online. Then you can always visit the Disneyland from Canada!
HTH, GL.
Could EB3 row become current soon.??
You don't indicate what stage your application is in (LC/PERM, 140 etc.) Is there a reason your prospective employer has not applied for an H1-B so you can start work before you get a greencard? (This is what 99% of EB applicants have done.)
Assuming they can't or won't, to answer your specific question here is my opinion (FWIW I'm English, EB-3 ROW with a PD of May 2003, on my 8th year of H-1B employment in the USA.):
My guess is the odds are about 50/50 that some form of immigration reform will be passed by the US government "soon" that would positively affect EB3 ROW. The practical definition of "soon" in this case is by September 2007, which allows time for debate, compromise, Presidential wanking around and who knows what Kafka-esque delays in actually enacting the law.
IF this happened there is still no guarantee this change would be positive enough to entirely clear the backlog that so a PD of June 2006 might still not to become current by September 2007.
IF this doesn't happen there is practically 0 chance of any changes that would positively effect EB retrogression prior to March 2009. (After the new government is elected in November 2008 AND then convenes a new session AND then deals with more urgent business than immigration reform.)
So some (hopefully) practical advice:
1) If you can get an H-1B now then do so
2) If you can't get an H-1B start studying for a Masters NOW. This will help you in the long run even if you get your Greencard through EB-3 because higher degrees from the UK are very valued in the USA. And if there is no improvement in EB-3 you at least have a chance at EB-2.
3) If you have no family ties and just want to go someone in North America you would almost certainly be eligible for permanent Canadian residency. You can just go to their website and fill out a simple, points-based questionnaire online. Then you can always visit the Disneyland from Canada!
HTH, GL.
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swamy
12-12 09:22 PM
However, as far as access to some information and benefits goes, this can be restricted to members. If you think this issue impacts you as severely as it does, why the hesitation to ensure something gets done about it, and get regular access to information and benefits without the clutter?
jazz
I guess you are talking about premium membership like wsj etc. I am not sure a free exchange of ideas can occur if we put our membership for sale by restricting access to some parts of the website. IV will lose some of its sheen and I am not sure the tradeoff in membership $ is worth it- dunno just doesn't feel right in the gut
jazz
I guess you are talking about premium membership like wsj etc. I am not sure a free exchange of ideas can occur if we put our membership for sale by restricting access to some parts of the website. IV will lose some of its sheen and I am not sure the tradeoff in membership $ is worth it- dunno just doesn't feel right in the gut
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485 Applied -- July 2nd
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Cheque clearance is a good indication.
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arihant
04-07 01:32 PM
I have a thought! How about fund raising events....members with some talent can really help here...hold an event (such as a concert...i have heard of some talented classical singers or classical dance performers from India giving concerts for a fee of a few thousand dollars in university auditoriums or other cultural venues) with all proceeds going to IV, or sell some services (such as IT services, accounting services, or any other high-skill talent that might otherwise cost a lot), etc. Say, someone wants to sell something on eBay, how abolut selling it and donating the proceeds to eBay. This way, we might be able to contribute more funds by performing some activities that we already have the talent for.
come on people, among such qualified and educated folks as the members of this organization, can we not find some skill in us that can be used to raised some funds?
What do people think?
come on people, among such qualified and educated folks as the members of this organization, can we not find some skill in us that can be used to raised some funds?
What do people think?
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jkays94
07-17 10:44 PM
If you feel you are offended or prejudiced, why not pursue a lawsuit for defamation/moral damages? I think this is perfectly fit for a judge to decide. Only this way the small can affect the big.
Or, why not try to appear on the show and talk against the lies Tancredo said? I bet Lou Dobbs would love that, as it would increase audience.
A petition like this, directly to CNN, is, in my point of view, a waste of time and effort. It's not going to be read and will be thrown into the trash can as soon as it is opened there.
Defamation is hard to prove without Lou Dobbs having singled out a particular individual or company. Lou Dobbs is hiding behind the first ammendment and he obviously knows that. However if someone is harmed, profiled or attacked because of being a H1-B holder and the perpetrator was influenced by Lou Dobbs there could be a case for recovery of damages. Lou Dobbs has been burned before by guests who have argued against his rhetoric, incase you have noticed, majority of his guests are almost 100% in full agreement with his principles thus hopes on appearing on his show are minimal at best.
Petitions and letters to CNN if delivered through the appropriate mode eg fedex will be read. If CNN decides to ignore the letter then they can only blame themselves when advertisers are the next target. No company would want to be associated with the sponsorship of bigotry or hatred.
Or, why not try to appear on the show and talk against the lies Tancredo said? I bet Lou Dobbs would love that, as it would increase audience.
A petition like this, directly to CNN, is, in my point of view, a waste of time and effort. It's not going to be read and will be thrown into the trash can as soon as it is opened there.
Defamation is hard to prove without Lou Dobbs having singled out a particular individual or company. Lou Dobbs is hiding behind the first ammendment and he obviously knows that. However if someone is harmed, profiled or attacked because of being a H1-B holder and the perpetrator was influenced by Lou Dobbs there could be a case for recovery of damages. Lou Dobbs has been burned before by guests who have argued against his rhetoric, incase you have noticed, majority of his guests are almost 100% in full agreement with his principles thus hopes on appearing on his show are minimal at best.
Petitions and letters to CNN if delivered through the appropriate mode eg fedex will be read. If CNN decides to ignore the letter then they can only blame themselves when advertisers are the next target. No company would want to be associated with the sponsorship of bigotry or hatred.
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JazzByTheBay
12-12 10:15 PM
Do you think the drive would have reached its original goal yesterday/early today without the January visa bulletin retrogressing us even further...?
I have my doubts about that... :)
And how far in the past would we need to retrogress to get another funding drive done...?
jazz
I dont think theres any doubt in the value iv is providing - selling it is the issue. I can be proved wrong in a month but the ongoing funding drive is kind of a ray of hope that people will be willing to give both time & money to help themselves and others.
I have my doubts about that... :)
And how far in the past would we need to retrogress to get another funding drive done...?
jazz
I dont think theres any doubt in the value iv is providing - selling it is the issue. I can be proved wrong in a month but the ongoing funding drive is kind of a ray of hope that people will be willing to give both time & money to help themselves and others.
abhijitp
07-12 09:54 AM
Guys,
How about start or finish the rally with US National Anthem ?
This will get a lot of attention. Above all it will show 'Legal Immigrants' different + communicate a lot.
Also encourage to get more American friends.
You can have a beer after the rally !
Good Luck.
This is a perfectly Gandhian idea:-) (He did that in South Africa)
Let's do it... the beer part should be postponed to some other time... presumably after all categories become C:-)
How about start or finish the rally with US National Anthem ?
This will get a lot of attention. Above all it will show 'Legal Immigrants' different + communicate a lot.
Also encourage to get more American friends.
You can have a beer after the rally !
Good Luck.
This is a perfectly Gandhian idea:-) (He did that in South Africa)
Let's do it... the beer part should be postponed to some other time... presumably after all categories become C:-)
pappu
05-24 02:36 PM
This is what the callings have done!
For HR 5882, From 2 to...
COSPONSORS(13), ALPHABETICAL
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 5/13/2008 Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-8] - 5/13/2008
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 5/13/2008 Rep Cuellar, Henry [TX-28] - 5/15/2008
Rep Davis, Tom [VA-11] - 4/24/2008 Rep Gilchrest, Wayne T. [MD-1] - 5/13/2008
Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 5/13/2008 Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 5/13/2008
Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 5/22/2008 Rep Roybal-Allard, Lucille [CA-34] - 5/22/2008
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 4/23/2008 Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/13/2008
Rep Speier, Jackie [CA-12] - 5/22/2008
Yes that is correct
Thanks to everyone that has been calling.
It was all because of IV member's effort :
- calling offices that was done in the last couple of weeks,
- state chapter members formed groups and visited DC,
- state chapter members went to local lawmaker offices. We had a national conference call for all state chapter members before we started this campaign.
- IV core lobbied hard over the past several months when these bills were in the works and are continuing to lobby for these bills.
calling, faxing, meeting, writing letters ... everything works.
Meeting works best.
It is all a question of how much you are willing to invest in this effort.
Digital signatures are just digital signatures. Anonymous letters are good for trash cans. Writing and calling lawmaker office is very helpful. In person meetings with staff are more valuable. In person meeting with the lawmaker himself is invaluable. Getting your employer to contact your local lawmaker office and also write about this is invaluable. Forming a group of people/actively participating as a state chapter and then going to a lawmaker office to lobby is invaluable.
So ultimately it all depends on how badly you want your own greencard and how much you value this effort. If the effort a person wants to do is only an online petition with digital signatures, then such effort is not even worth wasting time on. It will only make anti immigrants happy.
And no action is done haphazardly. We try to organize the effort. We just dont post our plans fully on the public forums. State chapters are more organized than forums and state chapters and their leaders have access to more information. If anyone wants to help us organize us better, please join us and help us. State chapter is just a start. we need everyone's expertise in organizing this effort better than what it is.
For HR 5882, From 2 to...
COSPONSORS(13), ALPHABETICAL
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 5/13/2008 Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-8] - 5/13/2008
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 5/13/2008 Rep Cuellar, Henry [TX-28] - 5/15/2008
Rep Davis, Tom [VA-11] - 4/24/2008 Rep Gilchrest, Wayne T. [MD-1] - 5/13/2008
Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 5/13/2008 Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 5/13/2008
Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 5/22/2008 Rep Roybal-Allard, Lucille [CA-34] - 5/22/2008
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 4/23/2008 Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/13/2008
Rep Speier, Jackie [CA-12] - 5/22/2008
Yes that is correct
Thanks to everyone that has been calling.
It was all because of IV member's effort :
- calling offices that was done in the last couple of weeks,
- state chapter members formed groups and visited DC,
- state chapter members went to local lawmaker offices. We had a national conference call for all state chapter members before we started this campaign.
- IV core lobbied hard over the past several months when these bills were in the works and are continuing to lobby for these bills.
calling, faxing, meeting, writing letters ... everything works.
Meeting works best.
It is all a question of how much you are willing to invest in this effort.
Digital signatures are just digital signatures. Anonymous letters are good for trash cans. Writing and calling lawmaker office is very helpful. In person meetings with staff are more valuable. In person meeting with the lawmaker himself is invaluable. Getting your employer to contact your local lawmaker office and also write about this is invaluable. Forming a group of people/actively participating as a state chapter and then going to a lawmaker office to lobby is invaluable.
So ultimately it all depends on how badly you want your own greencard and how much you value this effort. If the effort a person wants to do is only an online petition with digital signatures, then such effort is not even worth wasting time on. It will only make anti immigrants happy.
And no action is done haphazardly. We try to organize the effort. We just dont post our plans fully on the public forums. State chapters are more organized than forums and state chapters and their leaders have access to more information. If anyone wants to help us organize us better, please join us and help us. State chapter is just a start. we need everyone's expertise in organizing this effort better than what it is.