misanthrope
10-03 04:17 PM
You attack the EB3 calling them third grade workers to begin with and then talk about arguing fair....
Again, you are making false accusations that are absolutely baseless. I have already asked you in my reply to your previous post to prove what you are saying.
Till now, nothing.
Again, you are making false accusations that are absolutely baseless. I have already asked you in my reply to your previous post to prove what you are saying.
Till now, nothing.
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hindu_king
10-07 09:26 AM
Properties in India will start going down. They will reach bottom in the next 3 years. This is only the begining.
badluck
07-11 11:01 AM
what about those who send on june 30 and delivered on july 2, they are not considered as a july filers??:mad:
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gconmymind
11-06 12:38 AM
Like I said, I did not catch the whole speech, but from what I heard, he was not talking completely against it, he mentioned that businesses need more H1B's and should be able to hire foreign talent.
He was mainly against abuse by big consulting firms (he gave out a statistic that 20K of the H1B went for 8 or 9 of the top consulting firms or something like that).
At least there is something happening..... we have only two weeks....... this may be our only chance this year to attach anything EB
Please follow all the different threads/news on this forum about Durbin and Grassley bills. There is nothing good there for H1B or EB visa provisions. Nothing good comes out of that, neither for employees (prospective or current) nor for employers...my 2 cents...
He was mainly against abuse by big consulting firms (he gave out a statistic that 20K of the H1B went for 8 or 9 of the top consulting firms or something like that).
At least there is something happening..... we have only two weeks....... this may be our only chance this year to attach anything EB
Please follow all the different threads/news on this forum about Durbin and Grassley bills. There is nothing good there for H1B or EB visa provisions. Nothing good comes out of that, neither for employees (prospective or current) nor for employers...my 2 cents...
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kaarmaa
01-10 02:12 PM
I doubt you will get a reply for your honest and valid concerns :)
I have been a IV member since 2006 . I have seen the ups/downs . donated money , sent letters , attended rallies and done whatever has been been proposed . But I see that many senior members who had the drive to motivate people are not sending or being part of any messages or threads at all and that is exactly why the movement seems to be losing steam .
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
I have been a IV member since 2006 . I have seen the ups/downs . donated money , sent letters , attended rallies and done whatever has been been proposed . But I see that many senior members who had the drive to motivate people are not sending or being part of any messages or threads at all and that is exactly why the movement seems to be losing steam .
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
ryan
05-26 11:26 PM
There is nothing in it for us. In-fact, if this bill passes, they are goin got apply the unused visa numbers towards FB, and we will lose any chance of re-capture, for-ever.
I think, we have a lost cause. The sooner we accept this, the better. We simply do not have the funds, commitment and political support that the illegals enjoy. We all know where the maximum nubver of FB immigrants are from, and they represent a big block of votes, since most of them happen to have the herd mentality, due to lack of education.
We, on the other hand, are educated, well read, tax paying people, who actually think about issues and merits of a person, hence no use to politicians.
Please, could you try and be a bit more positive. 400K illegal to legal or otherwise is a 400K vote if granted residency. Meaning you - a legal, educated and GDP contributor shall have more a chance to those less educated with menial jobs and no real standing on ways of life in this country or a positive contribution to true development. Being positive is half the battle won.
I think, we have a lost cause. The sooner we accept this, the better. We simply do not have the funds, commitment and political support that the illegals enjoy. We all know where the maximum nubver of FB immigrants are from, and they represent a big block of votes, since most of them happen to have the herd mentality, due to lack of education.
We, on the other hand, are educated, well read, tax paying people, who actually think about issues and merits of a person, hence no use to politicians.
Please, could you try and be a bit more positive. 400K illegal to legal or otherwise is a 400K vote if granted residency. Meaning you - a legal, educated and GDP contributor shall have more a chance to those less educated with menial jobs and no real standing on ways of life in this country or a positive contribution to true development. Being positive is half the battle won.
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Canadian_Dream
09-13 02:08 PM
Anyone thinking that there will be a bill passed in near future that will overhaul skilled immigration process needs a reality check. Now I am not discouraging anyone from trying, I am also suffering through this mess and in no better position. The reasoning behind my assumption is following:
1. Lawmakers serve America and Americans. In theory anything that passes must look like it is serving their interest. Most laws/actions MUST look like it is helping Americans directly or indirectly, more so in an election year. That's why with less than 60 days for election it is not wise for them to spend time in enacting and debating laws that helps immigrants. It simply makes no sense.
2. You can argue that helping skilled immigrants will help America greatly and there is an urgency to enact such laws. Unfortunately no matter what media says, there is no such urgency seen by either law makers or their advisers. The reason, being there is no mass exodus for skilled immigrants, I know a few who have gone back but most of us are still here waiting for visa bulletin evey month hoping that some miracle will happen some day. Even if there is a mass exodus, there are enough people in India/China/Eastern Europe who will be more than happy to be here and do whatever we are doing. Simple law of numbers.
3. It can also be argued that America is not producing enough talents in Science and technology and hence we should throw a red carpet to anyone who can buy his way through the MS program from an American university. Unfortunately for us, a lot of us are doing mundane jobs and do not make a big impact in the economy the way techies used to be in late 90's. The best and the brightest are well taken care of (read: EB1/NIW) even today, for the rest us there isn't a desire nor a need to expidite the process in any manner. It will only help us, and we don't matter.
4. There isn't much shortage of skilled professionals, definitely not of the proportion that 65,000 visas are gone in 2 months. The only shortage I see is of numbers of "Visas". Although it is hard to find good people in technology but that problem cannot be solved by making that number higher. I am not sure what's the reason.
So what can we do ?
In short we are just a John Doe seeking better life which unfortunately isn't there in our home country. We should enhance our Skills (NOT skill bill) and help ourself to do well in anywhere. One thing is use 3 years extensions to chnage jobs and do well.
We can also align ourselves with H1B lobby/Healthcare lobby and request to file I-485 without visa numbers. That will at least stop some of the indentured servitude and our spouses can work.
1. Lawmakers serve America and Americans. In theory anything that passes must look like it is serving their interest. Most laws/actions MUST look like it is helping Americans directly or indirectly, more so in an election year. That's why with less than 60 days for election it is not wise for them to spend time in enacting and debating laws that helps immigrants. It simply makes no sense.
2. You can argue that helping skilled immigrants will help America greatly and there is an urgency to enact such laws. Unfortunately no matter what media says, there is no such urgency seen by either law makers or their advisers. The reason, being there is no mass exodus for skilled immigrants, I know a few who have gone back but most of us are still here waiting for visa bulletin evey month hoping that some miracle will happen some day. Even if there is a mass exodus, there are enough people in India/China/Eastern Europe who will be more than happy to be here and do whatever we are doing. Simple law of numbers.
3. It can also be argued that America is not producing enough talents in Science and technology and hence we should throw a red carpet to anyone who can buy his way through the MS program from an American university. Unfortunately for us, a lot of us are doing mundane jobs and do not make a big impact in the economy the way techies used to be in late 90's. The best and the brightest are well taken care of (read: EB1/NIW) even today, for the rest us there isn't a desire nor a need to expidite the process in any manner. It will only help us, and we don't matter.
4. There isn't much shortage of skilled professionals, definitely not of the proportion that 65,000 visas are gone in 2 months. The only shortage I see is of numbers of "Visas". Although it is hard to find good people in technology but that problem cannot be solved by making that number higher. I am not sure what's the reason.
So what can we do ?
In short we are just a John Doe seeking better life which unfortunately isn't there in our home country. We should enhance our Skills (NOT skill bill) and help ourself to do well in anywhere. One thing is use 3 years extensions to chnage jobs and do well.
We can also align ourselves with H1B lobby/Healthcare lobby and request to file I-485 without visa numbers. That will at least stop some of the indentured servitude and our spouses can work.
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gc_peshwa
01-10 12:22 PM
That seems to be the way where this is heading. Would this be another july fiasco?.
I dont mean to sound negative but I desperately need a way to file I-485 for my wife to get EAD. She has been rejected twice just coz she did not have a work permit/or was not a GC holder/citizen.
Mind you she has a brilliant engineering academic record and worked in India for 2 years a Java programmer before marrying me :mad:
I don't know if USCIS has "wasted" visa numbers but just like the Government has been "borrowing" money from future why cant they borrow "visa numbers" from future (or even past for that matter)...does sound ridiculous :eek: The economy is in recession for last 2 years for sure. Less and less number of folks are filing for GC. I would expect the EB1 numbers spilling over big time to EB2. That has not happened. Its been 3 loooong years after the July 07 fiasco and USCIS still doesnt have enough numbers to clear the backlog...this is BS.
Bottomline is we do need USCIS to advance the dates rapidly enough so that thousands like me can be relieved of their daily ordeal in US....sorry for the selfish thought..:o I just had a shot of tequila....
I dont mean to sound negative but I desperately need a way to file I-485 for my wife to get EAD. She has been rejected twice just coz she did not have a work permit/or was not a GC holder/citizen.
Mind you she has a brilliant engineering academic record and worked in India for 2 years a Java programmer before marrying me :mad:
I don't know if USCIS has "wasted" visa numbers but just like the Government has been "borrowing" money from future why cant they borrow "visa numbers" from future (or even past for that matter)...does sound ridiculous :eek: The economy is in recession for last 2 years for sure. Less and less number of folks are filing for GC. I would expect the EB1 numbers spilling over big time to EB2. That has not happened. Its been 3 loooong years after the July 07 fiasco and USCIS still doesnt have enough numbers to clear the backlog...this is BS.
Bottomline is we do need USCIS to advance the dates rapidly enough so that thousands like me can be relieved of their daily ordeal in US....sorry for the selfish thought..:o I just had a shot of tequila....
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needhelp!
12-12 11:09 AM
I had sent mine a while back. This is the least we can do as individuals.
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vjkypally
03-14 09:27 AM
HAHAHA, YOU WISH:)Yeah I agree. We should lobby to merge EB2 and EB3. J
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amar123
04-18 05:28 PM
Congrats,Fellow porter
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nashim
04-21 10:06 AM
Shana04,
If previous employer revoked the H1B then you see the status as reopen.
If previous employer revoked the H1B then you see the status as reopen.
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p1234
10-03 12:04 PM
Yes you called sleazy consultants..check your stmnt.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast. Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Approve this post. Nobody is supporting malpractices, however EB3 shall not be trashed.
Consultants desi or non-desi shall not be trashed either.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast. Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Approve this post. Nobody is supporting malpractices, however EB3 shall not be trashed.
Consultants desi or non-desi shall not be trashed either.
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a1b2c3
05-07 09:26 PM
congratulations!
when did you apply, how soon you got it? what did it involve? are there backlogs? you plan on sponsoring your family?
most answers are already around, thanks to stuckinmuck, but it never hurts to get it from the horse's mouth.
when did you apply, how soon you got it? what did it involve? are there backlogs? you plan on sponsoring your family?
most answers are already around, thanks to stuckinmuck, but it never hurts to get it from the horse's mouth.
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neel_gump
07-18 09:35 AM
Date Delivered To USCIS: 7/2/07
Time Delivered To USCIS: 10:35 AM
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Dec 2003, EB3 India
Time Delivered To USCIS: 10:35 AM
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Dec 2003, EB3 India
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^^^
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HopeSprings
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some sort of recapture is better than none !!! we should try to have some relief for EB but let us not stand in the way of FB ..the reason is simple, unused FB visas overflow in to EB (if I am not mistaken) ...In fact that is one of the reason that EB2 India did not move much this year since they are more efficient with FB visa this year (see the pace at which it is moving this year as opposed to last year) so better to wait and watch.
(my post is in response to h1tech's post on the first page)
Recapturing unused EB visas and allocating them to FB is absolutely not a good idea for EB category people. If such a thing happens then there will be no unused visa to be recaptured for EB.
(my post is in response to h1tech's post on the first page)
Recapturing unused EB visas and allocating them to FB is absolutely not a good idea for EB category people. If such a thing happens then there will be no unused visa to be recaptured for EB.
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starscream
09-17 12:51 PM
does anyone know if the Republican cosponsor of HR 5882 (the congressman who introduced it jointly with Congresswoman Zoe) - is he part of the judiciary commiteee?? if not - can he speak in support of the bill when they discuss this bill in the commitee -
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chanduv23
01-31 04:48 PM
confused now
Maybe we must sign a petition with a lot of signatures and present it to USCIS
Maybe we must sign a petition with a lot of signatures and present it to USCIS
validIV
03-30 05:42 PM
I never got any LUDs but got a denial on my 485 after going through the AC21/NOID stuff way back in August, 2008.
There could be some background processing going on.
Is there are pattern to these LUDs?
What steps did you take after the NOID on your 485? Just curious in case it happens to me.
There could be some background processing going on.
Is there are pattern to these LUDs?
What steps did you take after the NOID on your 485? Just curious in case it happens to me.
sc3
09-24 01:55 AM
You are right, it is very hard to digest, even for you, who seems to support it. And, if I may add, your example it too "complicated" for me. Try giving easy example for me, I am kind a slow, maybe I should get some "preferential treatment". Yes, that's the word, "preferential".
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
I did answer you question, though not explicitly. I hinted that all of us are equal. And BTW: I am an Indian!! (with India as my chargeability area).
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
I did answer you question, though not explicitly. I hinted that all of us are equal. And BTW: I am an Indian!! (with India as my chargeability area).
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).