realizeit
02-25 12:58 PM
Dear QASleuth, I have contacted Pappu and asked him to discuss this among CORE and provide us an official IV position. Once we hear back from Pappu or CORE, we can proceed further.
Regarding what I am planning to do: If we get IV CORE's support, I will try to organize a group from St Louis MO to work on this. But we need an excellent bunch of folks from the DC/NY area who can actually meet folks at the capital and get the ball rolling. All others who are far away from DC/NY area can form small regional groups to raise funds to support the DC/NY group which will drive this effort.
We should do something only after IV CORE's analysis of this issue and a legal feasibility study by immigration/constitutional attorneys IV can access.
QASleuth and others who would like to do something: Please don't wait for any action from my side. You can form regional working groups now itself. Just form members of 5 and discuss this and stay in touch.
I am new to this whole effort as anyone else here.
Once again friends, as I said earlier: "We have far more things that unite all of us than the few things that divide us. So, let us focus only those things that unite all of us."
So, please refrain yourself from pointing fingers at someone else and attacking someone personally.
I am hoping realizeit is in the process of contacting IV core and will update us soon. If not, realizeit please update as to what you are planning on doing.
After IV core gives us the go ahead, I think we should take your offer on the bridge call.
I would also suggest, not sending any mails yet to Ombudsman till we form a plan of action.
Ofcourse, still eagerly waiting for desi3933 to get back to us with cold hard analysis to set us straight :)
Regarding what I am planning to do: If we get IV CORE's support, I will try to organize a group from St Louis MO to work on this. But we need an excellent bunch of folks from the DC/NY area who can actually meet folks at the capital and get the ball rolling. All others who are far away from DC/NY area can form small regional groups to raise funds to support the DC/NY group which will drive this effort.
We should do something only after IV CORE's analysis of this issue and a legal feasibility study by immigration/constitutional attorneys IV can access.
QASleuth and others who would like to do something: Please don't wait for any action from my side. You can form regional working groups now itself. Just form members of 5 and discuss this and stay in touch.
I am new to this whole effort as anyone else here.
Once again friends, as I said earlier: "We have far more things that unite all of us than the few things that divide us. So, let us focus only those things that unite all of us."
So, please refrain yourself from pointing fingers at someone else and attacking someone personally.
I am hoping realizeit is in the process of contacting IV core and will update us soon. If not, realizeit please update as to what you are planning on doing.
After IV core gives us the go ahead, I think we should take your offer on the bridge call.
I would also suggest, not sending any mails yet to Ombudsman till we form a plan of action.
Ofcourse, still eagerly waiting for desi3933 to get back to us with cold hard analysis to set us straight :)
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msp1976
02-04 09:50 PM
No one here takes advantage of any group. We are talking here is what law says and how it is implemented by various agencies. The problem is there is doubt that DOS has not understood the law. No one is against ROW and loves India and China. US immigration simply based on preference catagories. For example, wife of U.S citzen will be given first preference in immigration (FB1) compare to brothers and sisters of US permanent residents (FB4or5). This is the law.
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
You see ...even in this text congress did not explicitly write that the 7% country limit does not apply to the EB immigration.They did not remove the limits as you claim...Unless and until they write that the 7% limit does not apply...all your logic remains on paper and not in practice...
The acceptable solution to all so that all of us get something is as Alisa says...'increase the total numbers'......Then all categories become current...
At least you would get to file 485 and spouses can work...
Otherwise we would just keep fighting among ourselves and get no where.....
Choices are simple...1. co operate with each other build a group, have a common minimum goal and get something ...
2. do not cooperate with each other and get stuck in the same thing forever...
Moderators...
Read the last 2/3 pages including this one and you would know the reasons why you have a large non-contributing member base....
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
You see ...even in this text congress did not explicitly write that the 7% country limit does not apply to the EB immigration.They did not remove the limits as you claim...Unless and until they write that the 7% limit does not apply...all your logic remains on paper and not in practice...
The acceptable solution to all so that all of us get something is as Alisa says...'increase the total numbers'......Then all categories become current...
At least you would get to file 485 and spouses can work...
Otherwise we would just keep fighting among ourselves and get no where.....
Choices are simple...1. co operate with each other build a group, have a common minimum goal and get something ...
2. do not cooperate with each other and get stuck in the same thing forever...
Moderators...
Read the last 2/3 pages including this one and you would know the reasons why you have a large non-contributing member base....
akhilmahajan
06-20 09:49 AM
Following up on my previous post. Here is the format for the ad and the affidavit. We went to the DC embassy to get the name changed and they have next day (business days only) passport-by-mail service. I don't think they have same day service.
Actual correct name: <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name>
Current Name on passport: <first_name_pp>
Name in US docs (Visa, SSN, Drivers Lic.):
<first_name_us> FNU _OR_ <first_name_us> <first_name_us>
Format of the ad we placed in Indian newspaper (TOI) and local US newspaper:
I, <first_name_pp> AKA <first_name_us> FNU AKA <first_name_us> <first_name_us> d/o <dads_name> R/o <indian_address/us_address> have changed my name to <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name>.
Format of Affidavit from India (on Rs. 10 Non Judicial Stamp Paper):
AFFIDAVIT
I, <first_name_pp>, D/o <dads_name>, R/o <indian_address>, do hereby take oath and solemnly declare as under:-
1. That I have declared my name as <first_name_us> <first_name_us> earlier.
2. That I have declared my name as <first_name_us> FNU earlier.
3. That now I want to change my name from <first_name_pp> to <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name>.
4. That in future I may be called as <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name> for all purposes
DEPONENT
VERIFICATION:
Verified at <city_name> on this <date> that the contents of the above affidavit are true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.
DEPONENT
The deponent above is the person whose name is being changed. Since my wife was here and the affidavit was to be made in India, my mother-in-law signed on my wifes behalf ...you know what I am saying... (ah! the things you can get done in India)
We found out at the embassy that we could have used our India issued marriage certificate (which had my wifes correct name) and avoid doing all this. Placing the ad, getting the affidavit and posting it to US all took a total of 1 week. We went to the DC embassy early on a Friday and we got the passport with the name changed via mail by Monday.
Another friend of mine got the same thing done via the mail-in service. It took him 2 weeks to get the passport back.
Hope this helps.
thanks a lot buddy................ really appreciate your help..............
Actual correct name: <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name>
Current Name on passport: <first_name_pp>
Name in US docs (Visa, SSN, Drivers Lic.):
<first_name_us> FNU _OR_ <first_name_us> <first_name_us>
Format of the ad we placed in Indian newspaper (TOI) and local US newspaper:
I, <first_name_pp> AKA <first_name_us> FNU AKA <first_name_us> <first_name_us> d/o <dads_name> R/o <indian_address/us_address> have changed my name to <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name>.
Format of Affidavit from India (on Rs. 10 Non Judicial Stamp Paper):
AFFIDAVIT
I, <first_name_pp>, D/o <dads_name>, R/o <indian_address>, do hereby take oath and solemnly declare as under:-
1. That I have declared my name as <first_name_us> <first_name_us> earlier.
2. That I have declared my name as <first_name_us> FNU earlier.
3. That now I want to change my name from <first_name_pp> to <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name>.
4. That in future I may be called as <corr_first_name> <corr_last_name> for all purposes
DEPONENT
VERIFICATION:
Verified at <city_name> on this <date> that the contents of the above affidavit are true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.
DEPONENT
The deponent above is the person whose name is being changed. Since my wife was here and the affidavit was to be made in India, my mother-in-law signed on my wifes behalf ...you know what I am saying... (ah! the things you can get done in India)
We found out at the embassy that we could have used our India issued marriage certificate (which had my wifes correct name) and avoid doing all this. Placing the ad, getting the affidavit and posting it to US all took a total of 1 week. We went to the DC embassy early on a Friday and we got the passport with the name changed via mail by Monday.
Another friend of mine got the same thing done via the mail-in service. It took him 2 weeks to get the passport back.
Hope this helps.
thanks a lot buddy................ really appreciate your help..............
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chanduv23
07-06 09:39 AM
Contribute to IV - IV needs funds, contribute to IV and spread the message.
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santb1975
11-20 10:26 AM
We can do better than this. We are all hardworking, highly skilled immigrants contributing to the US economy. We can all contribute for our cause and get our issues resolved. Let's show our financial strength.
desi3933
02-25 10:12 AM
Please create a poll and also start a special funding drive. I am committing $ 200 for this effort.
Hopefully desi3933 can come by and perform a reality check on this proposal.
An interesting idea to say the least. Out of box suggestion.
However, there are few things, from legal point of view, it needs to overcome. I will post my detailed comments this afternoon.
Once again, this is a great idea!
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Not a legal advice
US citizen of Indian origin
Hopefully desi3933 can come by and perform a reality check on this proposal.
An interesting idea to say the least. Out of box suggestion.
However, there are few things, from legal point of view, it needs to overcome. I will post my detailed comments this afternoon.
Once again, this is a great idea!
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Not a legal advice
US citizen of Indian origin
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GCBy3000
12-20 07:03 AM
Yes 12/27. Itis typo mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.
I'm assuming you meant 12/27 :)
I'm assuming you meant 12/27 :)
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dan19
12-19 10:11 AM
I sent in my contribution today.
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theMan
07-17 08:47 PM
You are "theMen" and "theWomen" as well. I have been advocating your role in obtaining relief for many of us here. Obviously some free riders and doubting thomases are still there, but once again, congratulations on a job well done.
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nareshg
07-07 01:52 PM
I sent mine from https://www.1888flowermall.com with Emilio's address as shipping address....
I see mine as billing address....is he going to get my complete name and address ?????
Is that the case for everyone and is it a problem ?
I see mine as billing address....is he going to get my complete name and address ?????
Is that the case for everyone and is it a problem ?
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aspirant_1
08-21 06:31 PM
I really don't understand why people think I am lying????
When I read the memo, I was more worried about my name check and whether she would check the status of it than about this, as anyhow my dates are not current. After showing the memo, she did offer to check the status.
With all the experience our guys have with USCIS officers and staff, it's hard to belive an IO would be that helpful? But, she's and even the staff at this office is not as bad as others have experienced.
I was even telling my wife about the behaviour and how staff at other offices behave.
Which USCIS Center did you go to. The best thing here would be that someone else also go to the same USCIS Center and can hopefully talk to the same IO officer. If she shows the memo again then we can get more information out of it.
When I read the memo, I was more worried about my name check and whether she would check the status of it than about this, as anyhow my dates are not current. After showing the memo, she did offer to check the status.
With all the experience our guys have with USCIS officers and staff, it's hard to belive an IO would be that helpful? But, she's and even the staff at this office is not as bad as others have experienced.
I was even telling my wife about the behaviour and how staff at other offices behave.
Which USCIS Center did you go to. The best thing here would be that someone else also go to the same USCIS Center and can hopefully talk to the same IO officer. If she shows the memo again then we can get more information out of it.
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darkblue2007
10-13 11:56 AM
Yup, issues regarding passport should be taken seriously. We need to keep track of all dates in and out of US, name change, correct names, spell check etc., otherwise it will delay the process when time comes.
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seahawks
04-12 01:05 PM
We all understand the EB immigration system currently as is needs to be fixed. We need to recognize this problem first. What I don't understand is most of the people I talk to about issues do not recognize the problem or are willing to accept it as is. They don't seem to be motivated in supporting IV from volunteering or providing financial support. If you look at this forum, take the amount of people who are registered and the amount of people who actually bring tangible value to this organization. What is in those few that we don't have? Let us all recognize that there is a problem first and lets think about ways to mobilize and spend energy in one direction set by IV.
Yes, we may not agree with every solution, but let us focus and believe that something will happen, if we all try together!
Yes, we may not agree with every solution, but let us focus and believe that something will happen, if we all try together!
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vhershe
08-14 01:52 PM
I-140 approved on May 31, 2007 from Texas center.
I-485, EAD, AP applications sent at Texas center.
Mailed documents June 30th.
Documents reached USCIS July 2nd in the morning.
I-140 - LUD was August 5, 2007
Checked with employer-Checks encashed on August 13, 2007.
Got 6 SRC #s. 3 for me and 3 for my spouse.
I-485, EAD, AP applications sent at Texas center.
Mailed documents June 30th.
Documents reached USCIS July 2nd in the morning.
I-140 - LUD was August 5, 2007
Checked with employer-Checks encashed on August 13, 2007.
Got 6 SRC #s. 3 for me and 3 for my spouse.
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reedandbamboo
09-11 09:31 PM
I was just thinking and then this came up on me . How about sending a poster along with the letter campaign. I can contribute atleast four posters. They do not have to be full size posters ..can be just A4 size pamphlets kinds. We can just print them in color printer and send them along with the letters. These posters may make it to the press also as they will be funny and spicy for news. Actually, we can send copy of our letters to press as well along with our posters. If we make about 10 such posters, we can send one random poster along with the letter.
Something like :
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_124c6jh9dg6&invite=mqk525
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_127xvp53jdx&invite=cn4gjw5
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_12895rfwtcw&invite=g7kcrzz
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_130cvdpx4cg&invite=7bb9vs
feel free to edit and make better.
Bwbawa,
Hats off for your efforts! I was about to suggest adding "We want accountability" to the posters when I saw it in the last one .. maybe these words should be in CAPS, "JUSTICE" "ACCOUNTABILITY" etc.. ?
Good job!
Lets now draw up a list of persons/media outlets/organizations to send them to.
Something like :
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_124c6jh9dg6&invite=mqk525
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_127xvp53jdx&invite=cn4gjw5
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_12895rfwtcw&invite=g7kcrzz
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_130cvdpx4cg&invite=7bb9vs
feel free to edit and make better.
Bwbawa,
Hats off for your efforts! I was about to suggest adding "We want accountability" to the posters when I saw it in the last one .. maybe these words should be in CAPS, "JUSTICE" "ACCOUNTABILITY" etc.. ?
Good job!
Lets now draw up a list of persons/media outlets/organizations to send them to.
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paskal
09-08 11:06 AM
he is just expressing concern that more action is not taken. i wrote param a pm to explain, also this thread will not continue indefinitely. we do however need to be clear in our stand and in our actions. we should be able to enunciate what we believe without resorting to the kind of vitriol that is thrown at us. personally i am waiting to see that- it's important even to grow as a community and achieve success that we develop this ability. our strength lies in the facts not in any hate or rhetoric.
be rest assured that ip's of those that post such stuff are tracked for action.
be rest assured that ip's of those that post such stuff are tracked for action.
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newbie2020
02-28 08:18 AM
We can make it at 9:00 if it helps our friends from West coast.
Sounds reasonable. Newbie2020 and others, does 9:00 PM EST sound ok to you guys ? We can cut down the call to about 45 mins to enable early risers to get to bed.
Sounds reasonable. Newbie2020 and others, does 9:00 PM EST sound ok to you guys ? We can cut down the call to about 45 mins to enable early risers to get to bed.
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ragz4u
04-12 02:04 PM
That really helps. But we need more stories from IV members. It need not be earth shattering like being a researcher in some cutting edge lab or an exec in a top 50 firm. We all have our own stories
If you read the first post, the senator (I think it was Kennedy) made a big deal about some immigrant he knew who had a very 'ordinary' life. All of us in IV are atleast one step ahead in the sense that we all are 'highly skilled'.
It could be about a Software Engineer who cannot get a promotion and has to reject more lucrative/satisfying offers from other firms to a person who is qualified as a High School teacher who cannot teach because she does not have an H1 visa
It could be about someone getting frustrated and applying to Canada as a backup otion or someone. Someone else might have a spouse who has been on H4 for 6 years and now cannot work inspite of avaiability of sponsor because one may use only 6 years of H visa.
Guys, unless we all chip in, lets forget about getting any resolution to this issue. IV is doing all it can and has been getting some success in getting amendments introduced. But unless we all step up to the plate, we can assure you it will be very difficult for us to protect these amendments in the senate. House conference will just chew us until we make some noise.
There are 3000 members on this forum, can't we even get a 100 decent stories to pass on to the media? Its difficult to convice media to write about us with only 5 people's stories......please chip in....as promised, no personal info about you will be revealed, unless you explicity mention that to us....
If you read the first post, the senator (I think it was Kennedy) made a big deal about some immigrant he knew who had a very 'ordinary' life. All of us in IV are atleast one step ahead in the sense that we all are 'highly skilled'.
It could be about a Software Engineer who cannot get a promotion and has to reject more lucrative/satisfying offers from other firms to a person who is qualified as a High School teacher who cannot teach because she does not have an H1 visa
It could be about someone getting frustrated and applying to Canada as a backup otion or someone. Someone else might have a spouse who has been on H4 for 6 years and now cannot work inspite of avaiability of sponsor because one may use only 6 years of H visa.
Guys, unless we all chip in, lets forget about getting any resolution to this issue. IV is doing all it can and has been getting some success in getting amendments introduced. But unless we all step up to the plate, we can assure you it will be very difficult for us to protect these amendments in the senate. House conference will just chew us until we make some noise.
There are 3000 members on this forum, can't we even get a 100 decent stories to pass on to the media? Its difficult to convice media to write about us with only 5 people's stories......please chip in....as promised, no personal info about you will be revealed, unless you explicity mention that to us....
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shiva7
09-07 09:59 PM
Every race is an immigrant for this country(except native americans.)
Infact this country is built up by the immigrants.
Please shut your mouth get the heck out of here.
Infact this country is built up by the immigrants.
Please shut your mouth get the heck out of here.
sbindval
07-17 09:57 PM
Job well done!
In a true grassroots organization like IV, can ideas and policy determinations flow from the ground up as well as from the top down in a democratic fashion. IV is...by the people for the people
please keep up the good work and as the IV community grows, i hope it does not become a bureaucratic institution like USCIS.
Contributed some more $ just now. Others, please contribute as well.
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In a true grassroots organization like IV, can ideas and policy determinations flow from the ground up as well as from the top down in a democratic fashion. IV is...by the people for the people
please keep up the good work and as the IV community grows, i hope it does not become a bureaucratic institution like USCIS.
Contributed some more $ just now. Others, please contribute as well.
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bach007
09-08 01:47 PM
...that this thread is an act of an inside man (within IV) to spark enthu among members. Whatever it is...itz working !!! :)
BINGO!!! :D
From the very first post I felt that (including the title of the thread ;) )
No wonder the guy's not getting banned inspite of his attacks on the core effort right now - THE RALLY.
Anyway, its working. :)
BINGO!!! :D
From the very first post I felt that (including the title of the thread ;) )
No wonder the guy's not getting banned inspite of his attacks on the core effort right now - THE RALLY.
Anyway, its working. :)