realizeit
02-27 01:18 PM
Dear newbie2020, QASleuth, NolaIndian and Others,
I will be there for this conference call.
Sorry folks for staying away from the communication going on in this thread for some time. I am personally going through some changes now. This Wednesday evening I came to know that my present job assignment is going to end shortly. (Fortunately, I have a new job offer). Now I am in the process of trying to get into this new job and it will take time to get adjusted to this new job. This means, I have to leave my H1b and use AC21/EAD to accept the new job. I had a conversation with one of the attorneys of Murthy law firm regarding all the Pros and Cons of my Job change. I documented the whole conversation and will be posting that to this site shortly for everyone else's use.
Even though I just posted this idea in this site, Guys please don't wait for anyone else's leadership. If you feel you can take this up, please do. It's your idea too. Do not give ownership of any idea to anyone. Why I am writing this at this point of time is I am going through some job transition for which I need a month or 2. So, my participation in this effort may not be up to my own expectations. However I will do whatever I can during this period and much more once I settle in my new job.
Will be in touch.
Sure,
We can setup a Conference call next week Wednesday 3/3/09 8:30PM EST
Here is the bridge info for folks interested in joining
Bridge number: +1 218 339 2626
Passcode: 245906
Bridge can accomodate upto 150 people.
I will be there for this conference call.
Sorry folks for staying away from the communication going on in this thread for some time. I am personally going through some changes now. This Wednesday evening I came to know that my present job assignment is going to end shortly. (Fortunately, I have a new job offer). Now I am in the process of trying to get into this new job and it will take time to get adjusted to this new job. This means, I have to leave my H1b and use AC21/EAD to accept the new job. I had a conversation with one of the attorneys of Murthy law firm regarding all the Pros and Cons of my Job change. I documented the whole conversation and will be posting that to this site shortly for everyone else's use.
Even though I just posted this idea in this site, Guys please don't wait for anyone else's leadership. If you feel you can take this up, please do. It's your idea too. Do not give ownership of any idea to anyone. Why I am writing this at this point of time is I am going through some job transition for which I need a month or 2. So, my participation in this effort may not be up to my own expectations. However I will do whatever I can during this period and much more once I settle in my new job.
Will be in touch.
Sure,
We can setup a Conference call next week Wednesday 3/3/09 8:30PM EST
Here is the bridge info for folks interested in joining
Bridge number: +1 218 339 2626
Passcode: 245906
Bridge can accomodate upto 150 people.
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santb1975
11-21 12:37 PM
^^^^
hopefulgc
09-11 05:00 PM
reedandbamboo,
excellent effort...
i suggest we shorten this good letter slightly ... andaks straight question in it.
copies to uscis director, condolezza rice, president byush..
We have nothing else to do on the immigration front for the next 50 days.. lets do this.
Sweet_jungle and Bawa,
Thank you for your initiative. After the raised and dashed hopes over the past 2-3 months (August, Sept & Oct 2008 visa bulletins) I am BLOODY angry about this RIDICULOUSLY fecked up system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell am I subjecting myself to this indignity!!
Here is a letter I drafted that I'd like to send to the Ombudsman .. could you'll help me edit/revise the content and also, please provide me with the contact info for the ombudsman?
we could also write letters to highlight this to Congresswoman Lofgren as well as publish it in media outlets?
Thanks!
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the Indian legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am
writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services�
provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous times when there have been erratic movements in the published visa bulletin dates. As a result the DOS either under- or over-estimates the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. When the date moves forward by too large a window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that???
Indian employment-based immigrants are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS.
3) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of this extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later.
Thanking you,
excellent effort...
i suggest we shorten this good letter slightly ... andaks straight question in it.
copies to uscis director, condolezza rice, president byush..
We have nothing else to do on the immigration front for the next 50 days.. lets do this.
Sweet_jungle and Bawa,
Thank you for your initiative. After the raised and dashed hopes over the past 2-3 months (August, Sept & Oct 2008 visa bulletins) I am BLOODY angry about this RIDICULOUSLY fecked up system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell am I subjecting myself to this indignity!!
Here is a letter I drafted that I'd like to send to the Ombudsman .. could you'll help me edit/revise the content and also, please provide me with the contact info for the ombudsman?
we could also write letters to highlight this to Congresswoman Lofgren as well as publish it in media outlets?
Thanks!
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the Indian legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am
writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services�
provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous times when there have been erratic movements in the published visa bulletin dates. As a result the DOS either under- or over-estimates the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. When the date moves forward by too large a window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that???
Indian employment-based immigrants are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS.
3) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of this extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later.
Thanking you,
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PlainSpeak
04-16 11:29 AM
Come on guys it's the weekend..relax and enjoy it
It's ok to let go of provocations
Life is unpredictable so relish every moment
Try yoga ...it works wonders for me :)
Precisely my words life is unpredictable so what makes the EB2 guys so confident to say that once EB2 becomes current EB3 I will get spillover
Fact is .....
- EB2 will never become current
- Spillover will got to EBROW not EB3
So all these logic will go out of the window because life is unpredictable
It's ok to let go of provocations
Life is unpredictable so relish every moment
Try yoga ...it works wonders for me :)
Precisely my words life is unpredictable so what makes the EB2 guys so confident to say that once EB2 becomes current EB3 I will get spillover
Fact is .....
- EB2 will never become current
- Spillover will got to EBROW not EB3
So all these logic will go out of the window because life is unpredictable
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number30
05-11 01:28 PM
'end of discrimination based on country of birth i.e. .
You can call this also as jealous. There are too many people from the other countries will have to wait because not having people to mass migrate to US. Arguments can be made in way. So be sympathetic. Your issue may not an issue for me. Do not call it as jealous
What they are saying not jealous. According INA priority date in case substitution is the day I-140 is applied. Somehow the original labor date was assigned as priority date . This might be an error but is causing problems and Inconvenience and injustice to some innocent people. You can call it as jealousy. That is alright but they have an issue which they need to fight. However small number may be it can benefit these guys.
If you do not support them that is OK. The moment you start using the word jealous, anti-immigrant etc. it stops the discussion.
You can call this also as jealous. There are too many people from the other countries will have to wait because not having people to mass migrate to US. Arguments can be made in way. So be sympathetic. Your issue may not an issue for me. Do not call it as jealous
What they are saying not jealous. According INA priority date in case substitution is the day I-140 is applied. Somehow the original labor date was assigned as priority date . This might be an error but is causing problems and Inconvenience and injustice to some innocent people. You can call it as jealousy. That is alright but they have an issue which they need to fight. However small number may be it can benefit these guys.
If you do not support them that is OK. The moment you start using the word jealous, anti-immigrant etc. it stops the discussion.
anilsal
09-08 12:22 AM
Let us all refrain from using bad language. America prides itself on its freedom of speech. Everybody has the right to speak their mind, but let us be mindful of how we say it!
For all those of you who are ticked off by Sherman and the likes, please come to Washington DC on the 18th and prove them wrong. If we speak loud enough, we will be heard.
See you all at DC on the 18th!
Agreed. The only way to answer this is to be present at the DC rally.
For all those of you who are ticked off by Sherman and the likes, please come to Washington DC on the 18th and prove them wrong. If we speak loud enough, we will be heard.
See you all at DC on the 18th!
Agreed. The only way to answer this is to be present at the DC rally.
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mjdup
12-19 04:25 PM
Well said ! $20 is not a lot but if you are first time contributor, the mind set just changes after you contribute and you become part of this organisation. And that is what we want - active participation !
We have reached 40%. To reach 50% we need $6000 more. If more people can contribute, we can reach this in no time.
The core and a lot of serious members have already contributed.
There are 2 mind sets of people on this forum:
1) I have contributed $500+ , I do not need to contribute $20 more, In anycase what is my
$20 going to do?.
2) I have never contributed, but I am ashamed of making my first contribution of only $20.
(Although that is what I am comfortable doing at this time.)
Both the above mindsets are wrong because If we have 7000+ members, out of which say 1000 have already contributed, that leaves us with 6000 members. If 6000 members contribute $1 each, we are at $ 6000 - 50% met.
Now all are not going to do it.
So you see $20 is still a good amount to start.
We have reached 40%. To reach 50% we need $6000 more. If more people can contribute, we can reach this in no time.
The core and a lot of serious members have already contributed.
There are 2 mind sets of people on this forum:
1) I have contributed $500+ , I do not need to contribute $20 more, In anycase what is my
$20 going to do?.
2) I have never contributed, but I am ashamed of making my first contribution of only $20.
(Although that is what I am comfortable doing at this time.)
Both the above mindsets are wrong because If we have 7000+ members, out of which say 1000 have already contributed, that leaves us with 6000 members. If 6000 members contribute $1 each, we are at $ 6000 - 50% met.
Now all are not going to do it.
So you see $20 is still a good amount to start.
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santb1975
11-28 03:03 PM
Please come forward to support this great cause
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gc28262
04-13 01:56 PM
Sad, but true, the substitution labor are utilizing the visa numbers a lot.. Not sure if any thing can be done @ this time.... There were lots of new people filed I-140/I-485 utilizing substitution labor in July / Aug 07 as the LC substitution was sunset after wards... Though it is legal :confused: they could have made the PD, they day I-140 was filed, since they allow to retain original PD, now people who really waited are forced to wait even longer.... Now that the program is sunset and also many people already jumped the line, do not see any advantage in complaining about it and expect no administrative reaction to this as labor sub no longer exist... Only solution to retro... is unused visa recapture / increase visa number / exclude dependent / etc... none of these can happen without intervention from congress.... which required very intense lobbying... which in turn requires $$$$ ... and more participation and contribution from the members seems to be the only option that could help all... If you don't help yourself.. no one would !!!
Do you or anyone who thinks that backlogs are due to labor substitution have any proof to claim so ?
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
Do you or anyone who thinks that backlogs are due to labor substitution have any proof to claim so ?
Even if there were some, they definitely won't be in large numbers. First of all to use a sub labor, one labor had to become available. Do you think there were so many labors floating around to grab one ? I don't think so.
How come EB3 ROW went "U" if all the backlog was due to labor subs ?
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mjdup
12-19 07:49 PM
With this 20 it is $220 from me. This will reach IV by 2/27 as per my bank.
I'm assuming you meant 12/27 :)
I'm assuming you meant 12/27 :)
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anilsal
09-07 11:42 PM
In that case make it 10,000 + 11,724 , as we all will be directly or indirectly watching you.
Please do not quote Lou Dobbs viewership numbers here.
Please do not quote Lou Dobbs viewership numbers here.
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abhijitp
11-29 06:16 PM
Here is something to read for you:
IV in 5/2006:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=948&highlight=manager%27s+amendment
About 4000 members, 2800 of which had not contributed anything, and even then IV managed to pull off this amazing feat.
This amendment was PASSED although the CIR bill failed to survive.
In other words, if there had been a bill only to address EB GC reforms, there was a great chance YOU would be able to file for your I-485 even if your PD was not current!
IV in 11/2007:
1) IV has 25000+ members.
2) The EB GC reforms proposed and passed as an amendment in mid-2006 are long overdue!
3) IV has gathered a lot of admiration and attention after the flower campaign/ SJ Rally-> leading to the July VB reversal, and of course the DC rally!
Even if 2500 of them pay $50 a month, IV would have a steady flow of $125000 a month for lobbying efforts.
Just imagine what IV could accomplish in the next few months, if only people realized how important it is for them to sign up for monthly contributions!
Think about it!
Thanks!
IV can do much more than it has already accomplished for us!
Please sign up for monthly contributions!
IV in 5/2006:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=948&highlight=manager%27s+amendment
About 4000 members, 2800 of which had not contributed anything, and even then IV managed to pull off this amazing feat.
This amendment was PASSED although the CIR bill failed to survive.
In other words, if there had been a bill only to address EB GC reforms, there was a great chance YOU would be able to file for your I-485 even if your PD was not current!
IV in 11/2007:
1) IV has 25000+ members.
2) The EB GC reforms proposed and passed as an amendment in mid-2006 are long overdue!
3) IV has gathered a lot of admiration and attention after the flower campaign/ SJ Rally-> leading to the July VB reversal, and of course the DC rally!
Even if 2500 of them pay $50 a month, IV would have a steady flow of $125000 a month for lobbying efforts.
Just imagine what IV could accomplish in the next few months, if only people realized how important it is for them to sign up for monthly contributions!
Think about it!
Thanks!
IV can do much more than it has already accomplished for us!
Please sign up for monthly contributions!
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ragz4u
04-20 09:54 AM
Your first post seemed asking only career wise successful folks who have patents/inovations and are affected by retrogression. I did write my story and then reread your first post, then thought to myself: my story is just similar to that Italian lady! The only thing different is she probably would have gotten her green card without much trouble, unlike my process.
Please let me know if you need ordinary story like mine, non-IT, mother and having been waiting for many years. Thanks.
I apologize for any miscommunication on my part.
Let me be very clear about what we are looking for
Your story about how you are affected by retrogression/back log etc. It could be as simple as 'I have a BS in Engineering and am stuck in back log for 2 years and cannot fulfil my dreams professionally' to 'I have a PhD in Nuclear Science and US needs me coz there are only a handful of us!' Anything and everything works.
I have literally recieved stories of stay at home moms (because of H4 they cannot work) to folks who have been interviewed by MIT! The whole spectrum helps.....please please send us your stories...we need all the weapons when we go face the senators on behalf of IV
As another fellow IV member who just sent me his story clearly mentioned, and I quote him
'Hope my story adds another spoke in the wheel. The thought of having to wait 2-3 or even more years just to be able to file the I-485 is damning. It's time to quit whining and do something about it. Want y'all to know that I'm available to help out in any way I can.'
Please let me know if you need ordinary story like mine, non-IT, mother and having been waiting for many years. Thanks.
I apologize for any miscommunication on my part.
Let me be very clear about what we are looking for
Your story about how you are affected by retrogression/back log etc. It could be as simple as 'I have a BS in Engineering and am stuck in back log for 2 years and cannot fulfil my dreams professionally' to 'I have a PhD in Nuclear Science and US needs me coz there are only a handful of us!' Anything and everything works.
I have literally recieved stories of stay at home moms (because of H4 they cannot work) to folks who have been interviewed by MIT! The whole spectrum helps.....please please send us your stories...we need all the weapons when we go face the senators on behalf of IV
As another fellow IV member who just sent me his story clearly mentioned, and I quote him
'Hope my story adds another spoke in the wheel. The thought of having to wait 2-3 or even more years just to be able to file the I-485 is damning. It's time to quit whining and do something about it. Want y'all to know that I'm available to help out in any way I can.'
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Help_Us
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potatoeater
04-11 10:21 AM
I reiterate what I said in my earlier post. The purpose of the post was not to start an argument. It was just an explanation of a baffling retrogression of dates.
Many people in these forums were asking bewilderingly, how can dates which were already retrogressed by eight years can go further back? Are there people around who are waiting for 8 years just to get their labors cleared? If their labors were already done, then what were they doing for 8 years before filing AOS petitions? I explained that no, nobody was waiting for all these years at the labor stage. These are new candidates utilizing old pre-approved labors. Thats all.
In fact, I predict retrogression to U level in EB2-I also. Many of these same people will now jump the queue again and switch to EB2 category.
Again, this is no judgment passing. Just an explanation of things as they stand. It is what it is.
Peace.
your immagination/calculation might be true.....so what?? Havnt we seen a lot of posting about what mischief is being done by a handful?? why do we spend our time on analysing that? IV shouldn't be a website where I log in in the morning and find what all mischief is happening or happened or will happen. There are mischief makers and let the law deal with them. we are a group of straightforward individuals who wish to concenterate on fighting the injustice of the extreme delays. If there was a mischief the USCIS is supposed to catch them and fix it. it is not allowed to delay yours/ mine just because a few others did something wrong. Please concentrate on today and tomorrow. Plan for a new line of action and we will join.
Many people in these forums were asking bewilderingly, how can dates which were already retrogressed by eight years can go further back? Are there people around who are waiting for 8 years just to get their labors cleared? If their labors were already done, then what were they doing for 8 years before filing AOS petitions? I explained that no, nobody was waiting for all these years at the labor stage. These are new candidates utilizing old pre-approved labors. Thats all.
In fact, I predict retrogression to U level in EB2-I also. Many of these same people will now jump the queue again and switch to EB2 category.
Again, this is no judgment passing. Just an explanation of things as they stand. It is what it is.
Peace.
your immagination/calculation might be true.....so what?? Havnt we seen a lot of posting about what mischief is being done by a handful?? why do we spend our time on analysing that? IV shouldn't be a website where I log in in the morning and find what all mischief is happening or happened or will happen. There are mischief makers and let the law deal with them. we are a group of straightforward individuals who wish to concenterate on fighting the injustice of the extreme delays. If there was a mischief the USCIS is supposed to catch them and fix it. it is not allowed to delay yours/ mine just because a few others did something wrong. Please concentrate on today and tomorrow. Plan for a new line of action and we will join.
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thomachan72
12-05 11:19 AM
Lets see, she
1. was here illegally
2. was convicted of shoplifting.
3. Drove without a license.
4. Had unpaid driving fines. (Bet she didnt have driving insurance either).
She had her delivery in a hospital which automatically assures adequate care for the child (paid for by the good citizens of Maricopa county, i should add).
As long as the pregnancy is uncomplicated, a woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled. In no way does that put her at risk of complications.
Yes it would have been humiliating, but whose fault is that?
Articles like this are published primarily to sway public opinion in favor of illegal aliens and amnesty. Judging by the responses I am impressed who effective they are.
If it were for some of the antiimmigrant folks, my friend you (sugaur) wouldn't be here a day longer. you would be "out" in a wink from this country. so dont consider yourself too supportive of anti-immigration. Even citizens are favoring resolving the ilegal immigration crisis by granting some legality to those who are here ilegally. Dont support ilegal immigration but atleast dont bash those who show support to resolving this crisis. you and me are mere temporary visitors here. please remember that your country is not this. you are here seeking prosperity and so are they. this country has a way of dealing with them and us and neither has been satisfactory so far. So my friend why side with one and sound righteous? Sympathy is universal and is shown even to the person going to be hanged. If ilegal immigration was such a big crime then why are the united states citizens debating about granting green cards to 11 million of these people here????? these people are neighbours and have been dependent on each other since ever.let us not meddle in their affairs. they assimilate better into the american culture than us.
1. was here illegally
2. was convicted of shoplifting.
3. Drove without a license.
4. Had unpaid driving fines. (Bet she didnt have driving insurance either).
She had her delivery in a hospital which automatically assures adequate care for the child (paid for by the good citizens of Maricopa county, i should add).
As long as the pregnancy is uncomplicated, a woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled. In no way does that put her at risk of complications.
Yes it would have been humiliating, but whose fault is that?
Articles like this are published primarily to sway public opinion in favor of illegal aliens and amnesty. Judging by the responses I am impressed who effective they are.
If it were for some of the antiimmigrant folks, my friend you (sugaur) wouldn't be here a day longer. you would be "out" in a wink from this country. so dont consider yourself too supportive of anti-immigration. Even citizens are favoring resolving the ilegal immigration crisis by granting some legality to those who are here ilegally. Dont support ilegal immigration but atleast dont bash those who show support to resolving this crisis. you and me are mere temporary visitors here. please remember that your country is not this. you are here seeking prosperity and so are they. this country has a way of dealing with them and us and neither has been satisfactory so far. So my friend why side with one and sound righteous? Sympathy is universal and is shown even to the person going to be hanged. If ilegal immigration was such a big crime then why are the united states citizens debating about granting green cards to 11 million of these people here????? these people are neighbours and have been dependent on each other since ever.let us not meddle in their affairs. they assimilate better into the american culture than us.
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jsb
08-21 04:11 PM
Yes, I agree. Preadjudication by no means, is a confirmed decision. It is just do as much as possible, but when the time comes, re-review the case - which can result in RFE for anything. Nothing is confirmed until decison is made. Be positive and hope for the best...
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Immi_Nightmare
07-05 04:26 PM
This is a great idea , but then DOS overturned the USCIS decision (hence the letter to Mike Chertoff and Condy of DOS from one the Congresswoman) . Shouldn't the flowers go to one of these guys ???
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coolmanasip
08-22 01:51 PM
I did not know people hate Hannity so much...the guy is not a bad entertainer....u don't have to agree with him....guys so much hate is not good....its friday relax dudes and enjoy this GC madness....
lusuresh
07-17 07:01 PM
Asked a few of my friends to join IV ASAP. I didnot file may labor yet but I am happy for all my brothers who can take this oppurtunity to file there I-485.
Thanks Core
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sanju
02-26 09:04 PM
AND I AM NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I HAVE EAD. EVERYONE BENEFITS FROM THIS AT SOME POINT OF THEIR GC PROCESS.
So you want this because EVERYONE will benefit from it, not "just" because you will benefit, right!!
Every man always has two reasons to do anything (1.) the right reason and, (2.) the real reason.
.
So you want this because EVERYONE will benefit from it, not "just" because you will benefit, right!!
Every man always has two reasons to do anything (1.) the right reason and, (2.) the real reason.
.